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CONLANG  February 2012, Week 3

CONLANG February 2012, Week 3

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Re: quick vocab/sociology survey

From:

Patrick Dunn <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:39:03 -0600

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That was very amusing satire. Thanks.  I needed that.

--Patrick

On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Gary Shannon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> It occurs to me that a (non-technical) word that is unknown to 99% of the
> population is not really a word at all. A word is a collection of sounds
> represented by a collection of symbols which CONVEYS INFORMATION.
>
> Globerdrange is not a word because it conveys no information. But suppose I
> define globerdrange as the thin film that builds up on the inner surface of
> a teakettle over the years. Is it now an English word because I have
> defined it? I don't think so.
>
> So suppose I happen to be wealthy, so I buy a publishing company and decree
> that globerdrange be included in the next edition of the dictionary
> published by my company. Is it an English word then? I still don't think
> so. Just because it's in some book doesn't make it a real word.
>
> It doesn't become a real word until some significant portion of the
> population actually uses it in daily discourse, or encounters and
> understands it frequently when reading.
>
> Highly technical terms specific to a particular field of study are
> excepted, of course, but I maintain that sound sequences like "williwaw"
> are not actually words. To 99% of the the population such a word has no
> more meaning than globerdrange, and should not be granted any more wordly
> status than my own imaginary neologism.
>
> So the problem is not that English has too many words. The problem is that
> the English dictionary contains too many non-words. I say if a
> (non-technical) word is unknown to 80% of the population it should be
> purged from the dictionary as unnecessary baggage.
>
> --gary
>
> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 5:17 AM, taliesin the storyteller <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > On 2012-02-21 13:35, Padraic Brown wrote:
> >
> >> Find a way to combine williwaw with katabatic and bob's thy nuncle.
> >>
> >
> > But, katabatic williwaws should surely be possible? Might almost think a
> > piteraq *is* a katabatic williwaw by my quick google of the terms, just
> > located to Greenland.
> >
> >
> >  Throw in piteraq for good measure! Ikkii!
> >>
> >
> > With or without the extra-i? There might be plenty ikkis in the years to
> > come :(
> >
> >
> > t.
> >
>



-- 
Second Person, a chapbook of poetry by Patrick Dunn, is now available for
order from Finishing Line
Press<http://www.finishinglinepress.com/NewReleasesandForthcomingTitles.htm>
and
Amazon<http://www.amazon.com/Second-Person-Patrick-Dunn/dp/1599249065/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1324342341&sr=8-2>.

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