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CONLANG  February 2012, Week 4

CONLANG February 2012, Week 4

Subject:

Re: NATLANG: Middle English pronunciation of digraph/diphthong OU/OW

From:

Matthew Boutilier <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:29:20 -0600

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>
> Why OU/OW can be /ɔu/ in know and soul or /uː/ in nou(now) and house?
>

well, the <ow> in "know" wasn't originally a digraph.

OE cnāwan "recognize" is the earlier form, where /w/ is a full consonant --
[ˈknɑːwɑn]

OE /ɑː/ basically *always* becomes ME /ɔː/ (and, later, modern english /o:/
or RP [əʊ] or GA [oʊ] or what have you)

so, i'm no expert in middle english, but my guess would be that in *
cnowe/cnawe*, <w> still functioned as a semivowel -- [ˈknɔːwə] -- i.e. a
consonant in it's own right, and not as some part of a digraph.

the diphthongs in modern "now" and "house," contrarily, reflect OE /uː/ -- *
n**ū *and *h**ūs*; this is an actual case of digraphing, because the ME
sound is still /uː/. so i suppose to tell apart the dual usage of <ow>/<ou>
i would say that it helps to know a little a bit about the histories of the
words in question.
*
*like i said, i don't know too much about ME, especially orthographical
conventions, but the difference likely stems from this. why <ou> and <ow>
were selected to write the sound /uː/ when OE had been using <u>, i have no
idea, but it could very well have to do with a contemporaneous problem of
figuring out how to spell all the french loanwords. french today uses <ou>
for /uː/, and <u> for /y(ː)/; maybe conditions were similar in the time of
middle english.

bear in mind that back then <w> and <u> were basically the same thing. OE
did not strictly speaking have <w>, but modern books use <w> to transcribe
the "wynn" letter (looks like a P) that was taken from the runic alphabet.
but <w> was now and then used as a vowel even in ME (cf. *nwe* for "new,"
from OE nīw), which is probably connected to its use in modern welsh.

cheers
matt



On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Hugo Cesar de Castro Carneiro <
[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Hello conalngers,
>
> I was on a personal project and perceived that OU/OW was the only
> digraph/diphthong to have two different pronunciations. As long as I
> remembered two different phonemes could not be written with the same
> orthography.
>
> Why OU/OW can be /ɔu/ in know and soul or /uː/ in nou(now) and house?
>
>
> This doubt came from a personal project I was doing on English orthography.
>
> I know that this kind of subject usually brings chaos and whining to the
> list, so I am already saying that this is only a personal hobby, that I
> want to do a simple CON-Reform... I know it won't work, it is only
> art-stuff, OK?
> Before one says "How many dialects will it consider?". I can say "Everyone
> I find. Nowadays I'm working with the 10 dialects that are shown on
> Wikipedia
> page about IPA for English
> dialects<
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Phonetic_Alphabet_chart_for_English_dialects
> >.
> Thus,I'm using distinct lexical sets for BIT and KIT (due to South African
> dialect), for BAD and LAD (Australian dialect), TOE and TOW (Wales
> dialect), and FERN, FIR and FUR (Ireland and Scottish dialects)."
>
> I am trying to create a possible con-orthography that would cause a minimal
> amount of changes to the current orthography and would make it regular and
> rule-based. Some small changes like changing "oo" to "u" when it is
> pronounced as /ʌ/ (blood > blud, flood > flud), or making non-initial "th"
> between vowels when it is pronounced as /ð/ (smooth > smoothe), and other
> small changes.
>
>
> Well, if this brings the chaos and/or whining that I think it will. I will
> stop this thread right here, in this post. The only thing I ask is if there
> was any rule about how to pronounce OU/OW in Middle English.
>
> If someone shows soem interest, I can continue this thread and say what
> kinds of improvement I had and the problema I found.
>
>
> Best regards for you all,
> Hugo Cesar
>

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