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CONLANG  February 2012, Week 4

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Re: NATLANG: Middle English pronunciation of digraph/diphthong OU/OW

From:

And Rosta <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

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Hugo Cesar de Castro Carneiro, On 24/02/2012 17:08:
> Why OU/OW can be /ɔu/ in know and soul or /uː/ in nou(now) and house?

Not my specialism but iirc, ME had a phononological contrast between /ow/ and /uw/ but not an orthographic one. /ow/ either remained alone (Norfolk; your TOW) or else, in most dialects, joined GOAT. /uw/ formed MOUTH.
  
> This doubt came from a personal project I was doing on English orthography.
>
> I know that this kind of subject usually brings chaos and whining to the
> list, so I am already saying that this is only a personal hobby, that I
> want to do a simple CON-Reform... I know it won't work, it is only
> art-stuff, OK?
> Before one says "How many dialects will it consider?". I can say "Everyone
> I find. Nowadays I'm working with the 10 dialects that are shown on Wikipedia
> page about IPA for English
> dialects<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Phonetic_Alphabet_chart_for_English_dialects>.
> Thus,I'm using distinct lexical sets for BIT and KIT (due to South African
> dialect),

that'snot a phoneme split afaik

>for BAD and LAD (Australian dialect), TOE and TOW (Wales
> dialect), and FERN, FIR and FUR (Ireland and Scottish dialects)."
>  
> I am trying to create a possible con-orthography that would cause a minimal
> amount of changes to the current orthography and would make it regular and
> rule-based. Some small changes like changing "oo" to "u" when it is
> pronounced as /ʌ/ (blood>  blud, flood>  flud), or making non-initial "th"
> between vowels when it is pronounced as /ð/ (smooth>  smoothe), and other
> small changes.
>
>
> Well, if this brings the chaos and/or whining that I think it will. I will
> stop this thread right here, in this post. The only thing I ask is if there
> was any rule about how to pronounce OU/OW in Middle English.
>
> If someone shows soem interest, I can continue this thread and say what
> kinds of improvement I had and the problema I found.

I will be interested. But the decision to select just the ten varieties on the Wikipedia page somewhat reduces the interest from what it might otherwise have been.

--And.

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