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CONLANG  March 2012, Week 1

CONLANG March 2012, Week 1

Subject:

Re: Nonhuman features: birdspeak

From:

Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sat, 3 Mar 2012 03:11:48 +0100

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On 2 March 2012 15:50, Nikolay Ivankov <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>
> My wife has pointed me on this in the Appendix. Perhaps, the Common Speak
> was more Germanic in nature than Sindarin. And, well, in Slavic -a in
> proper names is used for both masculine and feminine - the deft examples
> are the shortenings of the names in the 'Wilfila' manner: with Sasha,
> Zhen'a and Val'a being used for both Alexander/Alexandra,
> Yevgeniy/Yevgeniya and Valentin/Valentina respectively. But LOTR was
> already thought to be read by a wide auditorium, so the changes in the
> names.
>
>
From what I know, the Common Speech (called Westron, in the language itself
Adûni) was a descendant of Adunaic, the Mannish language of Númenór. Like
its ancestor, it seems to have had a triconsonantal root structure not
unlike that found in Semitic languages, so in any case it wasn't in any way
Germanic-like :) .

It seems the -a ending was an agentive ending, but also a simple masculine
ending (at least in the Hobbit dialect). -o and -e were feminine endings.
And by the way, while Bilbo's original name in Hobbit Westron was indeed
Bilba, Frodo's was *not* Froda. It was actually *Maura*. Probably another
case of etymological backformation, going back to the ancestor language,
translating the word *there* into Old English, and then make it evolve
again towards Modern English. It's the same method as with the word
_Hobbit_, from Old English _holbytla_ "hole-dweller", paralleling the
Westron word *kuduk*, from archaic *kûd-dûkan* with the same meaning.

When Tolkien said he translated all the Westron words into English, he was
not kidding about it! :P
-- 
Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets.

http://christophoronomicon.blogspot.com/
http://www.christophoronomicon.nl/

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