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CONLANG  March 2012, Week 4

CONLANG March 2012, Week 4

Subject:

Re: Written Form of American Sign Language (ASL)

From:

Gary Shannon <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 27 Mar 2012 18:35:39 -0700

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The most complete conscript writing system I ever worked out was one I
devised while taking an ASL class for two semesters many years ago. With
each new ASL sign I learned I invented a purely arbitrary glyph that had
nothing whatsoever to do with the hand positions or motions of the sign. By
the time I finished the two semesters I had just over 2,000 glyphs in my
dictionary and I was regularly writing my daily journal and taking notes in
classes using the system.

It was all documented on file cards, and I hadn't used it for many years
when it was all lost in a house fire. In the several decades since then I
have two or three times tried to reconstruct the writing system, but I
never got very far with it. The first time was fun. Trying to do it over
again was too much like work.

FWIW: Here's a thread from 2005 on the same subject:
http://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0502C&L=CONLANG&D=0&P=14820


--gary

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Arthaey Angosii <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Hey, everyone! Long time no email. :) (I've just been busy with work
> and with life in general, nothing terribly exciting or bad going on.)
>
> Anyway, I've started taking an ASL (American Sign Language) class and
> am really disappointed in all the various transcription systems that
> are out there. The most common failing is a lack of transcribing
> non-manual aspects of ASL, which are grammatically necessary. The
> second common failing is they they are more geared toward academic
> documentation, not toward a useful day-to-day writing system.
>
> I had been hopeful about the new kid on the block, si5s, but it seems
> lacking too (doesn't encode z axis of movement, doesn't encode palm
> orientation, etc).
>
> I asked on a Deaf forum about writing systems and was pretty
> thoroughly shot down as writing wasn't something Deaf people were
> interested in, encoding a spatial-visual language into a linear
> written space was impossible, and I was barking up the wrong tree.
>
> But for *myself*, I sure would like to be able to write myself notes
> about what I learn in my ASL class, make flashcards, etc. Plus my
> natural inclination toward conlangs and conscripts likes the challenge
> of trying to encode everything that's phonemic and necessary about ASL
> into a written form. Based on my conversations on that Deaf forum, I
> have no illusions that actual Deaf people and native signers of ASL
> will be interested in a written form of ASL, but then again, that's
> never stopped me from creating my conlangs even though no one is
> interested in speaking them.
>
> So. Are there any ASL signers here (Deaf or otherwise) that have done
> something like this already? Or who would be interested in giving me
> feedback if I end up working on my own conscript?
>
>
> --
> AA
>
> http://conlang.arthaey.com
>

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