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CONLANG  April 2012, Week 1

CONLANG April 2012, Week 1

Subject:

Re: R2D2 language

From:

Eric Christopherson <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 2 Apr 2012 23:38:19 -0500

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On Apr 2, 2012, at 10:14 PM, Padraic Brown wrote:

> --- On Mon, 4/2/12, Charlie Brickner <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
>>> Yes, there are a great many things about this conlang
>> that are naive,
>>> and just plain wrong, but for the average reader it's
>> probably
>>> perfectly adequate for the job. As much as we would like
>> to see every
>>> conlang be a work of art, some are just minimally
>> utilitarian. And
>>> that's probably O.K.
>>> 
>> 
>> I'm rather glad to hear you say that.  I'm no great
>> conlanger, but as I went 
>> over this one I thought, "This is not on a par with the
>> conlangs I've seen on 
>> the conlang list."  Good to know that I'm not TOO
>> uneducated!
> 
> Indeed! I've seen folks come through here saying basically "I started 
> conlanging last Thursday and here's what I've got so far..." that have been
> better than this -- BUT, let's not forget the purpose of this conlang.
> 
> It's not intended to be a work of art or some great labour of love which
> can unlock the deepest secrets of the soul. It is a product. She made it
> for Lucasfilm who in turn used it in some production of theirs. This is
> one of those conlangs that was created for the express purpose of being
> nothing more than background material to some story. It's exactly the sort
> of thing get when you use the Holly Lisle method of language creation: a
> bit of decoration for a work of fiction. Nothing wrong with that at all;
> we just have to understand the underlying philosophy.
> 
> And don't sell yourself short! This Mando'a has nothing on your Senjecas!
> 
> Padraic
> 
>> Charlie

I don't think it's that bad. There seem to be a lot of words, and a lot of clusters of words that are related in both form and meaning; although I haven't investigated enough to see how systematic the clusters of related words are. And there are a few grammatical things that aren't like English (like tense being optional). So I think probably a lot of work went into it, at the very least.

I don't mean to be harsh to the list, but I wouldn't expect Karen and her friends to go on and on about how unprofessional and shallow Conlang members' fiction writing is (especially of the amateurs among us). Nor would I expect Conlang members to be quite as critical of other members' beginning conlangs as they are of Mando'a. Constructively critical, yes, but not so dismissive.

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