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CONLANG  April 2012, Week 5

CONLANG April 2012, Week 5

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Re: Definiteness & Verb Classes

From:

Logan Kearsley <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 30 Apr 2012 01:04:21 -0600

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On 30 April 2012 00:22, Ian Spolarich <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Well, two things came to mind while on a flight to Chicago this evening
> while I was working on a new conlang. My first question is, are there more
> "levels" of definiteness than just "a" and "the"? Perhaps something like
> "the only"?

I have a little-bit-more-than-sketch that has multiple categories of
definiteness inspired by Swedish. Don't quote me on *Swedish* actually
working this way, though; it's quite possible that I totally
misunderstood it, but reading a grammar of Swedish was the source of
inspiration.

There are four levels indicated by the combination of an article /
possessive pronoun & two inflections. Category 1 (indefinite
inflection) is "just any old one", "these things in general". Category
2 (art+indefinite) is "one of these things, that sort of thing" (e.g.,
"my sister-INDEF" == "one of my sisters", "the house-INDEF" == "a
house of that sort"/"one of those houses"). Category 3 (definite
inflection) is just like "the", stuff you're assumed to be able to
identify in the discourse context. Category 4 (art+definite) is "this
one specifically, the one that I have in mind", with no assumption
about whether or not you already know about it.

Mev Pailom, inspired by Blackfoot, has completely different multiple
categories based on referentiality. Category 1 (referential) is "I
have a specific thing in mind; ask me if you're not clear on which it
is". Category 2 (non-referential) is "I don't have a specific one in
mind"; used for general or theoretical statements, or when you don't
know what the actual referent is (e.g "some guy"- it's a specific one,
but I can't have him in mind, because I don't know who it is).
Category 3 (negative) is "not this, none of these"; e.g., "There's no
milk left!"- I can't be referring to any actual milk, because the
whole point is that there isn't any. Either of categories 1 or 2 can
be translated as "the" or "a" in different contexts.

-l.

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