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CONLANG May 2012, Week 2

Subject:

Re: CHAT: Conlang-accented English (or other languages)

From:

Eric Christopherson <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sat, 12 May 2012 12:24:14 -0500

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On May 12, 2012, at 5:50 AM, Nikolay Ivankov wrote:

> Janjarin lacks all consonants between bilabial and uvular (not including),
> and this is partially caused by the anatomy or Janja people. So for a
> native Janja speaking any earthy language would be nearly "mission
> impossible". For a native speaker of Janjarin, who is, however, non-native
> Janja, there would be
> 1) tending to voiced consonants (since Janjarin is normally sung)
> 2) tending to either labial or uvular/glottal
> 3) rhotic consonants and [l] are going to be replaced with creaky voice
> 4) h-consonants - with aspiration
> 5) n and m will either disappear, nasalising the nearest vowels, or become [
> ã]
> 6) they will also tend to lengthen the vowels whenever possible, and try to
> add tones
>
> Zoo, aii dõd a̰ḛaa̰ı̰ı̰ zĩĩg iid wuud bi boziba̰ du
> gõbḛee̤ẽ̤d zeeḭa̰ bõ̰õziazẽ ow Ĩgḭiz wızaud ĩĩã
> diwuiguṵdıız(So, I don't really think it would be possible to
> understand their
> pronunciation of English without real difficulties). Add to this that

That's great! I actually understood a bit of that.

>
> 1) in the current sketch the symbol _z_ does not represent a real
> consonant, but rather a "humming" of nearby vowels;
> 2) they will actually try to pronounce b as a voiced bilabial click;
>
> and you're almost done.
>
> In the speech, the native Janjarin speaker will mostly try to
> 1) Make the sentences OSV;
> 2) forget to put "don't" and try to put pronounce the verb in the negative
> tonal pattern;
> 3) same with questions;
> 4) forget the articles and use "zee" (the) for what have been the focal
> suffix.
> Thus, you may well hear the phrase;
>
> "bread the Bobby buy↓"
>
> which will mean
>
> "It wasn't Bobby who bought the bread"
>
> because in Janjarin it would be
>
> SIMP-bread.DIR-FOC-Boby.OBL-buy.NEG
>
> or
>
> "The bird you see↑"
>
> with the meaning
>
> "Did you see a bird?"
>
> FOC-SIMP-bird.DIR-you.ERG-see.IRG
>
> Here SIMP is the simple relative time suffix and FOC - the focal suffix.
>
> Zee uwḛḛ, zããziig a̰a̰ıg zeed (Well, something like that).
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Eric Christopherson <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>
>> Following up on the thread about English accents...
>>
>> Has anyone here worked out in any detail how native speakers of their
>> conlangs would speak English, or any other nat- or conlang?

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