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CONLANG May 2012, Week 2

Subject:

Re: Cockney glottal

From:

Sam Stutter <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 8 May 2012 21:15:48 +0100

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On 8 May 2012, at 21:13, BPJ wrote:

> That's not only America. Lots of Swedes think there are only
> three Swedish cities, and three Swedish accents -- one for
> each of them --, and even a lot of Swedes outside those three
> cities think that one of those accents is 'Standard Swedish'.
> Otherwise Swedes who don't live in or near one of those three
> cities think there are four of each, adding their local instance.
> They are wrong on all three/four accounts, of course, except
> that the only-three-accents bit alas seems to be trying to become
> true, at least from the vantage point of one of those three
> cities (blame television)!

Ordinary-Swedish-Meal-Time accent, Swedish-Chef accent and Wallander accent? :)

>
> /bpj
>
> On 2012-05-08 19:00, Cosman246 wrote:
>> The same reason Americans think there are four American cities.
>>
>> -Yash Tulsyan (yasht, cosman246)<http://cosman246.com>
>> "Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this
>> would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to
>> enslave them." --Dune
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Sam Stutter<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> Aargh! It's not even "cockney", it's just non-prestige. The amount of
>>> times I hear aspirational mothers tell their foals ::middle class Suffolk
>>> accent:: (presumably they've just been teleported up North in search of a
>>> Waitrose) "no Jeremiah, darling, it's "butter" not "bu'eh"", and then I
>>> (with my distinctly middle class Cheshire accent), deliberately say
>>> "buh'uh" in their general presence :)
>>>
>>> Aargh! Why does every American think all of Britain is London and that
>>> there are only two accents!!! :D
>>>
>>> Sam Stutter
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>> "No e na'l cu barri"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8 May 2012, at 16:12, Jesse Bangs wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Sai<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2604
>>>>>
>>>>> Enjoy / sorry,
>>>>> Sai
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Does being aware of glottal stops really bother ponies? I've been savvy
>>> to
>>>> glottal stops in American English for years, and it has never, ever
>>> sounded
>>>> Cockney to me. The Cockney glottal stop is in all medial positions (I
>>>> think), while the American one is only in codas, and only certain codas
>>> at
>>>> that. Not remotely the same thing.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> JS Bangs
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> http://jsbangs.wordpress.com
>>>>
>>>> "Be kind, for everypony you meet is fighting a great battle" -Philo of
>>>> Alexandria
>>>
>>

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