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CONLANG  May 2012, Week 4

CONLANG May 2012, Week 4

Subject:

Re: BAN: Illte / Koppa Dasao / Tole...

From:

Jennifer Collins-Jai <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sat, 26 May 2012 11:20:10 -0400

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*"And yes, body parts are animate and inalienably possessed
in Sohlob!"*

That's just delightful.  I mean, it does make sense, but still.
If I ever add alienable and inalienable to a conlang I'm definitely doing
that.

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:04 AM, BPJ <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> On 2012-05-25 11:28, And Rosta wrote:
>>
>> R A Brown, On 24/05/2012 19:42:
>>>
>>> Hi Henrik!
>>>
>>> On 24/05/2012 18:12, Henrik Theiling wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Conlang List! [snip]
>>>>
>>>> If you agree with me, please don't hesitate to contact
>>>> me.
>>>
>>>
>>> I agree! I agree!
>>>
>>> Indeed, I was somewhat dismayed to find that immature troll
>>> still around after I re-emerged from my own self-imposed
>>> "hibernation."
>>>
>>> Though if he had continued, I would simply have done what
>>> Charlie apparently does - trash his mails unread.
>>
>>
>> I favour the delete-without-reading method; one of the several
>> virtues of email lists is that the delete-without-reading method
>> is so effectual and should obviate the need for casting
>> listmembers into exile.
>>
>> (But if the offending listmember were saying stuff that enraged
>> me, I expect my espoused forbearance would evaporate and I too
>> would clamour for their banishment. However, nothing in 25 years
>> of reading email lists has ever enraged me, even tho, say, 25
>> seconds of reading the Daily Mail sends me into fulminating
>> apoplexy.)
>
>
> I agree with both Henrik & And on all accounts.
>
> Perhaps something good and on-topic can come out of
> this; when things were hot last week I discovered a
> Sohlçan proverb:
>
> Ofanob jorn on hoz jan krenid bom urçem mundruq sfaqam
> sahay jenkluq.
>
> [ˈɒvɑnˌɒb̥ ˈd̥ʒ̊ɒɻnɒsʰn̥ ˈɒn ˈhɒz̥ ˈd̥ʒ̊ɑn ˈkɻ̊ɨnid̥ ˈb̥ɒm ˈuɻɕɨm
> ˈmundɻuʁ̥ ˈsfaʁam ˈsʰaɦaj ˈd̥ʒ̊ɨŋkl̥uʁ̥]
>
> of-an=ob                        jorn=osn
>
> HAB\not.be-3.SG.ANIM=perhaps    mouth=DIST\3.SG.ANIM.POSS
>
> on                hoz    jan       kren-id
>
> DIST.3.SG.ANIM    big    enough    PROG\eat-PROG\when.CVB
>
> bom       ur=çem               mundr-uq
>
> lonely    DIST.3.SG.INAN=in    PERF\reap-PERF\after.CVB
>
> sfaq-am                   sah-a-y        jen=kluq
>
> HAB\sow-HAB\due.to.CVB    anger-0-ACC    cause=without
>
> Or in Cidilib:
>
> Ofanggob vrong on çod dey kringij bom urxim mundruf
> sfaqam sahay jehnroq.
>
> [ˈɔvaŋˌgɔb̥ ˈvrɔŋ ˈɔn ˈɕʰɔd̥ ˈd̥ɛj ˈkr̥iŋid̥ʒ̊ ˈb̥ɔm ˈurχim ˈmundruf
> ˈsfaʁam ˈsʰaɦaj 'd̥ʒ̊ɛŋ̊rɔʁ̥]
>
> A very literal translation:
>
> 'It is perhaps not big enough the mouth of him/her
> when being eating in the lonely after having reaped
> due to sowing anger without cause.'
>
> (Only one finite verb per sentence, as you can see!)
>
> A perhaps idiomatic translation:
>
> "The mouth may not be big enough to eat in loneliness
> what it has reaped after sowing anger without cause."
>
> There is BTW one grammatical difference between the
> Classical Sohlob and the Cidilib version.  Can anyone
> guess what?
>
> And yes, body parts are animate and inalienably possessed
> in Sohlob!
>
> /bpj

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