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CONLANG June 2012, Week 1

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Re: Yay Development!

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MorphemeAddict <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 7 Jun 2012 00:12:50 -0400

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What are the alphabet differences from Cyrillic? I noticed you used a Latin
's' as well as a Cyrillic 'с'. What is the value of a Latin 'T'? Theta?
stevo

On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 10:41 PM, Brian Woodward <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Greetings All!
>
> Okay, here's the thing:
>
> I've been working on developing a conlang for a while now but I'm one of
> those who doesn't like most of his creations so most things just get thrown
> out. I don't really care how natural or not it is, nor do I care if it
> duplicates something someone else or a natlang has done. (Don't get me
> wrong, I am interested in those aspects of linguistics and conlanging just
> not for this project.) I just wanted to throw a few ideas out there and see
> if anyone knows of any languages (con or nat) that incorporates these ideas
> to maybe get a handle on how certain aspects are treated. Also I would like
> constructive criticism so I can improve (and don't worry, nothing any of
> you can say will hurt my feelings or offend me so please be blunt and
> honest). I don't have a very developed lexicon nor is the grammar developed
> very far but for the concepts I do have maybe I'll be able to explain them
> well enough for you. Note: please forgive my lack of experience/knowledge
> with glossing, if there be any ambiguity I will clarify upon request.
>
> So, without any further ado, I present the beginnings of Lасуван [laTuvan]:
>
> 1) The voices that I hear
>
> I'm not set in what all voices I am using besides the active voice but the
> concept lies in that the change in voices is displayed on the verb's
> arguments and not the verb itself. For example:
>
> Active:
> Милsна каж ицан за sужа.
> Write.IPF 1.sg.case1[see section 2] word.case2[see section 2]
> undefined.particle strawberry.RESTEMATIVE[again see section 2]
> I am writing the word strawberry.
>
> Passive:
> Милsна ицан за sужа.
> Write.IPF word.case2 undefined.particle strawberry.REST
> The word strawberry is being written.
>
> The concept is not simply in the dropping of the subject (in this case the
> pronoun). It deals more with the case system that I will attempt to explain
> in section 2.
>
> Gnomic (I know this isn't normally considered a voice but I include it
> based on the fact that I use the same construction for it):
> Дулна гусара sужан.
> Eat.IPF person.REST strawberry.case2
> People eat strawberries.
>
> 2) The cases, in case you're wondering
>
> I'm not sure what to call these cases, I haven't been able to find anything
> that fits what I have in mind for them but here goes:
>
> First there is the citation form which is used for, well, citing a word,
> but is also used for the gnomic tense and a few other things like column
> headings and such; I call it Restemative, it's similar to (I think) the
> oblique case(?). I could be wrong on that though.
>
> The morphosyntactical cases are what I think will be the hardest for me to
> explain. I use a system that has one case for the originator of the
> action(1), not necessarily the agent though. Then I have a case that (in my
> mind) "terminates" the action(2); that is, the direct object for bivalent
> verbs or the indirect object for trivalent verbs. Then there is a third
> case for things that (again in my mind) the action "passes through"(3);
> this would be the direct object for trivalent verbs.
>
> So, for example:
>
> Клижа
> Cat.REST
>
> Пуана клижар.
> Swim.IPF cat.case1
> The cat swims.
>
> Вугушин каж клижан.
> Hit.PFV 1.sg.case1 cat.case2
> I hit the cat.
>
> Паула каж клижи джуанан.
> Give.PFV 1.sg.case1 cat.case3 John.case2
> I gave the cat to John.
>
> I have a few other ideas but I don't have them fleshed out enough to
> present. I'm far from having a working language but it is my hope that your
> comments and criticisms will help me to develop it.
>
> In hopes that I haven't been too confusing.
> Brian
>
> P.S. I got bored with the Latin alphabet so I'm using a modified Cyrillic
> one until I can get an abjab created that I actually will stick with. The
> pronunciation is basically that of Russian without the "hard" and "soft"
> distinction. If there are any questions about it please just ask.
>

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