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CONLANG June 2012, Week 1

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Re: Drift (was RE: TRANSLATION: Venus transit)

From:

Padraic Brown <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 7 Jun 2012 13:35:56 -0700

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--- On Thu, 6/7/12, Charles W Brickner <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: Charles W Brickner <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: [CONLANG] Drift (was RE: TRANSLATION: Venus transit)
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Thursday, June 7, 2012, 2:09 PM
> From: Constructed Languages List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On
> Behalf Of Padraic Brown
> 
> >I think this is because, apart from any specialist
> meanings (nautical and
> aeronautical), the primary ordinary meaning of drift is
> "wander aimlessly".
> >This is not what planets do, but it does describe how
> leaves fall, how
> sticks move in a current, how chickens wander the yard and
> how the mind
> wanders during a boring class.
> 
> >To move under constant influence I'd say is more in the
> domain of "push" or
> "draw" or "guide" (assuming some intelligence behind the
> force there) or
> "drive" might be better >choices.
> 
> I've been thinking about this.  I'm one of the
> believers in "wander
> aimlessly".  But I think another aspect of "drift" is
> calmness or slowness.

No, I concur entirely! As I said in response a moment ago. There is indeed
an aspect of slow, calm movement to "drift". I guess strictly speaking, a
planet that's whizzing along at 35km/s can't be "drifting" in any sense
of the word!

> I think of a leaf floating on a stream or falling from a
> tree.  

Indeed. And a leaf in a tornado or a hurricane is "(wind) driven", for me.

> A raft
> traveling on white water is being influenced by the water's
> current as is
> the aforementioned leaf, but it is hardly drifting!  A
> leaf being blown by
> hurricane winds is being influenced by the wind currents as
> is the
> aforementioned leaf, but it is hardly drifting!  Venus
> traveling at 17,000+
> km./sec. is not drifting.  On the other hand, viewed
> against the vastness of
> the sun, it sure looks that way.

Perspective, I guess.

If a leaf were blowing around in Jupiter's 400mph winds, the locals there
might look upon our hurricanes and say that our leaves were drifting in
a nice calm breeze!

> Charlie

Padraic
 

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