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CONLANG July 2012, Week 1

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Re: Generic Dictionary Software

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Петр Рихардович Кларк <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 1 Jul 2012 19:32:33 +0400

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On Sunday, 01 July, 2012 12:08:57 Logan Kearsley wrote:
> So, I've now got both conlanging and serious academic interest in
> trying to solve this dictionary problem, and the programming skills to
> back it up. There's no need to try tricking linguists into thinking
> it's for them to drum up support, because it really genuinely is for
> them, but for conlangers, too.
	Great! I was recently thinking of doing something similar, but I simply 
don't have the time to tackle it. I think you will find yourself very popular 
if you manage to pull it off!

> Definitions for tags with information like "this is a guiding
> metaphor, things that work within this metaphor have this tag"
> Question- what all should be included in the description of a lexical
> item? This is the biggest point of difference between languages, I
> think.
	See my answer ↓ below.

> And then these features for a program:
> A lexical entry editing system that's configurable for different
> languages (configurable how exactly?)
	The editing system should be customizable, so that it only displays 
those fields that are needed for the language in question. For example, 
different languages have different parts of speech and different parts of speech 
will have different fields. So the user should be able to customize that parts 
of speech there are, and then customize the different "forms" or array of fields 
that are displayed with the various parts of speech. 
	So, for example, if I were customizing it for English, I would at a 
minimum need to create three different forms: one for nouns, verbs, and 
everything else. (Or, more likely, the forms for articles, conjunctions, 
adjectives, and adverbs would be similar, if not identical, to each other.) 
When I go to create a new entry, I am given a choice of forms, based on part 
of speech. So I choose "Verb", and the form for verbs appears, with fields for 
the infinitive, past tense, part participle, and their pronunciations, 
definition, normal usage, idiomatic usage, etc.
	Clearly, you can't predict what languages will need which fields, so 
either have a domain-specific language to create the fields, or simply have the 
user define the fields; the program doesn't even need to know what "past 
participle" means, just that there's a field for it, and that field is displayed 
with the form for verbs.

> Any ideas for other things that ought to be included, both in terms of
> data that ought to be storeable and features that a program should
> have for manipulating it?
	Cross-platform. No question. It could be either stand-alone or browser-
based; if browser-based, it needs to be able to run locally without requiring 
a lot of setup -- in other words, if I want to run it on my desktop, I don't 
need to setup Apache or something. Python has built-in web server 
capabilities, others probably are similar. There shouldn't be a lot of 
external dependencies, and any dependencies should be very forgiving, i.e., I 
don't need the latest and greatest extreme bleeding edge, but can use a 
library from three or four years ago. But it's best if it's as self-contained 
as possible.
	The default data format should be plain text (not a binary blob or 
database), preferably something easy for humans like like JSON or YAML. XML is 
another option, but the general trend seems to be to avoid it unless 
absolutely necessary.
	Should have the ability to include images.
	Should be able to create a style sheet for exporting to HTML, ODF, and 
PDF, so that we can have good-looking dictionaries without needing to post-
processes them.
	:Peter

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