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CONLANG  September 2012, Week 2

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Re: gsfa [WAS: Basic Word Lists]

From:

Gary Shannon <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sat, 8 Sep 2012 10:38:42 -0700

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There's no end to the job of collecting types of sentences I guess! :-)
It's a good thing I enjoy collecting them.

--gary

On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Roger Mills <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I don't seem to see any examples with comparatives of the type1) "I like rice more than potatoes" or 2) "I like X more than John does" or 3) "I prefer X more than/over Y" or 4) "he eats faster than me/ ~I (do, can)" or 5) "he [talks more /.eats faster] than he [ought to/ is necessary]" -- I mention this because they were a bit of a problem in Kash, in that when "than" is followed by a complete (or deleted) sentence (as in #4,5) it requires a slightly different construction......There is one examples of "Name1 is Xer than Pron/Name2" which would fall into the same category. Cf:
>
> šenji lavi yavital alo 2 li 'Shenji is taller than 2 li (=meters)' alternately
> vitalni šenji (yale) lavi alo 2 li [Shenji's height (is) more than 2 li" (no change of subject)  vs.
>
> šenji lavi yavital alo re erek 'Shenji is taller than Erek [is (tall)] (_re_ shows change of subject ~subord..clause)-- change of subject, deleted verb) and cf. also
>
> šenji lavi yavital alo re amani 'Shenji is taller than his father [is]' (father still living}
> (colloquially,  of course, lots of speaker omit the _re_ in these cases) but not in
>
> šenji lavi yavital alo re yavitalsa amani 'Shenji is taller than his father was (tall)' (father is not living)-- change of both subject and tense (I think I have these right, without checking my syntax page :-))))
>
> --- On Sat, 9/8/12, Gary Shannon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> From: Gary Shannon <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: gsfa [WAS: Basic Word Lists]
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Saturday, September 8, 2012, 1:07 AM
>
> On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Arthaey Angosii <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Gary Shannon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> It occurred to me that it might be interesting to paraphrase
>>> the sentences in some standard form, and with a small, controlled
>>> vocabulary, to serve not as models of sentence structure, but as a
>>> checklist of the general TYPES of things a conlang should be able to
>>> say, without regard to HOW those things are said.
>>
>> Do let us know if you ever write that up Ś I'd certainly be interested in it! :)
>>
>
> I sometimes loose track of what is on my own web site. It turns out I
> already did something of this sort back in 2010:
> http://fiziwig.com/conlang/syntax_tests.html
>
> --gary

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