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CONLANG  September 2012, Week 2

CONLANG September 2012, Week 2

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Re: Siye: A Passionate Lover of Mars

From:

Adam Walker <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 13 Sep 2012 12:46:10 -0500

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I didn't get the Americana reference.  But then I'm not terrribly up on my
Americana.  Sad but true.

Adam

On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Padraic Brown <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> --- On Sun, 9/9/12, Anthony Miles <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > [This tale may sound familiar to
> > students of Americana]
>
> A sad story indeed!
>
> One part I didn't get...how did the man arrive at "because she would not
> marry me" when there's no indication of the girl's will or nill in the
> song? The mother denied the man's request, that I got; and the man
> complained to the woman about this, but is there a line missing somewhere?
> Why not just drag the mother down to the river instead?
>
> Padraic
>
> > Leya tumna laye tum ekempukima.
> > A man loved a woman.
> > Leyaya laye lu layemetu ayekena:
> > This is what the man said to the mother of the woman:
> > (the number prefix is -ke-, PAUCAL, because a Siye statement
> > will contain at least three words.
> > It is perfective because reported speech is conceived as a
> > complete act.)
> > Le layeke peme iltumpusumtetuma.
> > I want to marry your daughter.
> > Laye luya itu ayekena:
> > The mother said to him:
> > le petu layeke leme iletumpusumkakunu.
> > I do not intend you in any way to marry my daughter.
> > Itu peyapomike ekimkekina.
> > Unto her the years are few.
> > Leyaya layetu ayekena:
> > The man said to the woman:
> > laye lu pemena leso letumsosumkakunu.
> > Your mother has forbidden us to marry.
> > Iya letu ayekena:
> > She said to me:
> > petu peyapomike ekimkekina.
> > Unto you the years are few.
> > Tumku siwima ame:
> > Only say this:
> > peya letu pekimpukimam
> > you will be unto me and
> > peya ko um umsakumesone emkim pekemkukima.
> > you  will be inside the arms of no other man.
> > Peya ko lemesone emkim nimu epuluwepuma.
> > You will find happiness inside my arms.
> > Leyaya layetu ayekena:
> > The man said to the woman:
> > leso sutukene tekem kemhusaki sakikemhumekem lesusome.
> > Let us two go on the path at the riverbank.
> > Iso kemhusakikem isusomam
> > The two of them walked along the bank and
> > leyaya laye yenukiki tutuku yiwipunema.
> > the man holds the woman forcefully with a knife.
> > Laye leyatu ayekena:
> > The woman said to the man:
> > la kepusumtonunu
> > do not kill me
> > le numu likemeka elekekanuya.
> > because I have not made the death gifts
> > Leya ko tuki-tuki imepuki sakikemhumsu ya iniku
> > yisupusumtumam
> > The man took her down to the water by her white, white hand
> > and
> > iso lu saki ikimsokimekem isusonumamam
> > they both went down to the water
> > leyaya ko imesoki laye yitupusumnunam
> > the man threw the woman with his hands
> > leyaya sakine emtu laye yitupusumtunam
> > the man threw the woman into the river
> > leyaya laye sakine tekem isupunumame yikoputuma.
> > the man watched the woman who floated down in the river.
> > Leya samni nelosum tummesukem imiputumam
> > The man walked home from dark (midnight) to one and
> > enepuyamkima ame:
> > thought this:
> > le pala elekenamo?
> > What have I done?
> > le laye supi ilompumame ilekepusumnuna
> > I have murdered the only woman I loved
> > iya la letumpusumkikaya
> > because she would not marry me.
> >
>

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