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AUXLANG  September 2012, Week 4

AUXLANG September 2012, Week 4

Subject:

Re: Esperanto -n [WAS: New to Auxlangs]

From:

Stephen Rice <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 28 Sep 2012 14:04:28 -0600

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On 9/28/12, Geoffrey King <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> In a different place I've recently been arguing in favour of analyzing
> and describing Esperanto on its own terms rather than by comparison with
> other languages. From this point of view terms such as "locative",
> "illative" and "accusative" are useful shorthand but they may get in the
> way of seeing the internal workings. It works in Ido, which only ever
> uses -n as an accusative (if word order is unusual), but things are
> different in Esperanto.

Ido has an odd secondary use for the accusative as well: marking the
predicate noun (attribute, whatever). A complete explanation would
take a while; see section 128 and note 12 from the _Kompleta Gramatiko
Detaloza_, available here:

http://www.literaturo.ido.li/kgd.pdf

pages 87 and 90, respectively.

> If you turn things round the other way and look at the operation of the
> Esperanto -n it becomes clear that rather than "being used" to express a
> variety of features found in other languages (accusative of direction
> "en la domon", illative "iri Parizen", verb object "mi batis Johanon"
> and maybe others), it is one morpheme with one specific (though rather
> vague) meaning, along the lines of expressing direction or destination.
> In other words, if you take any word that expresses a starting point
> (agent) or static position, adding the -n moves the item to the opposite
> end of the activity described by the verb.

What about when it replaces a preposition (if only "je")? Lundon, la
1an de Oktobro...

Steve

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