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Re: OT: Russian interlinear for absurdly story

From:

Dustfinger Batailleur <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 30 Sep 2012 16:11:47 -0400

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My native speaker intuition tells me that ли is not used as a suffix with
the meaning "Whether". However, it may be the past tense of a verb for a
plural (they, we, or you) pronoun. So maybe it's like "We penised"? In any
case, that isn't something a person would say in conversation, and to me it
just looks like some guy took "penis" and shoved whatever prefixes/suffixes
he could onto it.

On 30 September 2012 16:03, Amanda Babcock Furrow <[log in to unmask]>wrote:

> Really? My non-native-speaker intuition whenever a й gets replaced by
> a ли is that they're either using or making an analogy to the paradigm
> of й as imperative ending, ли as past tense plural. Since this excerpt
> is wordplay, they might be verbing the noun.
>
> Granted, my non-native-speaker intuition actually can't make heads
> or tails of the passage, so take with a grain of salt.
>
> tylakèhlpë'fö,
> Amanda
>
> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 12:35:11PM -0500, Bryan Hoffman wrote:
> > хули is contraction of
> > хуй<http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D1%85%D1%83%D0%B9#Russian>
> > (“penis”) + ли <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D0%BB%D0%B8#Russian> (“
> > whether”) according to the wiktionary. I'm trying to learn Russian, and
> > these sort of affixes are destroying me.
> >
> > 2012/9/30 MorphemeAddict <[log in to unmask]>
> >
> > > On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 3:50 AM, Nikolay Ivankov <[log in to unmask]
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Sai <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Any chance someone in the audience knows enough Russian
> linguistics to
> > > > > provide a full interlinear for the following?
> > > > >
> > > > > Хуяк! Хуя нахуевертили! Хули нахуй,
> > > >
> > >
> > > Хули is from хуй? What happened to the й?
> > >
> > > stevo
> > >
> > > > хуилы, нахуярили дохуя хуецкой
> > > > > хуевины? Охуели нахуй, хуеплёты хуевы? Нехуй хуевничать,
> расхуяривайте
> > > > > нахуй хуетень!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > FWIW, the above is composed 100% of derivations of the word for
> > > > > "cock", using the absurdly flexible Russian affix system to create
> > > > > something that is almost totally untranslatable literally but has a
> > > > > very understandable sense nonetheless.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Two compound words spotted.
> > > >
> > > > ObCL: I dare you to do something equivalent to this (or to 施氏食狮史) in
> > > > > your conlang.
> > > > >
> > > > > - Sai
> > > > >
> > > > > P.S. Yes, I'm a native speaker. Unfortunately, I'm also only
> > > > > semi-literate, and I have zero knowledge of formal Russian grammar
> or
> > > > > linguistics, so while I can translate the sense of this I can't
> > > > > actually break it down very well without reverse-engineering my
> > > > > sprachegefühl. :-/
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>

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