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CONLANG  October 2012, Week 3

CONLANG October 2012, Week 3

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Re: Unusual(?) Conlang Idea

From:

Jack Steiner <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sat, 20 Oct 2012 14:31:39 -0400

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Yeah definitely not Semitic roots, which use vowel 'formats' more for inflection (i.e. tense, causality, etc.) than derivation, though the confusion is understandable.
I would say the one issue I could forsee with this conlang is dealing with various classes of words. Do verbs follow the same format? How are they marked for tense/agreement/etc. if at all? Can verbs take on modifiers like 'young'?
I'd say take a look at how Semitic languages use a similar construction albeit for different purposes. Otherwise it sounds like a groovy enough idea.

> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 18:53:28 +0200
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Unusual(?) Conlang Idea
> To: [log in to unmask]
> 
> On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Dustfinger Batailleur <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> > I'm pretty sure that that is an example of Semitic roots.
> 
> 
> +1. Arabic does it in a bit different way, there are no slots like "youth"
> and teaching "teaching" but you have something like that
> 
> drs - root concerned with learning
> darasa - to learn
> darrasa - to teach (make learn)
> dars - lesson
> madrasa(t) - school (where people learn)
> mudarris - teacher (the one making learning)
> 
> `(th)n - ear, listening
> `athana - to hear
> `aththana - to make hear
> `uthn - ear
> `athan - a chapter from Quran, IIRC
> muaththin - the one who sings on a minaret (making others hear)
> 
> hmd - respect, honor -> Hamid, Ahmad, Mahmood, Muhammad etc.
> 
> Sbh
> sabah - morning (dawn, "brightening")
> misbah - lamp ("brightener").
> 
> etc.etc.etc.
> 
> 
> 
> > On 20 October 2012 11:05, G. van der Vegt <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > > Has anyone ever designed a conlang where most (or all) morphemes fell
> > > into two main classes, 'objects' and 'modifiers' and where you could
> > > slot any modifier into any object, and you couldn't have any modifiers
> > > or objects that stood alone without the other (though a 'null'
> > > modifier or object could exist, of course.)
> > >
> > > This might be a little abstract, so I'll try to give a few examples of
> > > hypothetical morphemes for such a language in the section that
> > > follows.
> > >
> > > This hypothetical conlang has a CV structure, all object morphemes are
> > > C_C_C_ and all modifier morphemes are _V_V_V (this is probably more
> > > restrictive than if I decided to create a more full-fledged conlang,
> > > but should suffice for the purposes of demonstration)
> > >
> > > We have the following roots (leaving out the 'slots' in which the
> > > other roots fit)
> > >
> > > Objects:
> > > knm - science, academics
> > > mnr - Male human, usually of adult age
> > > fwz - Female equivalent of mnr
> > > hsp - Building
> > > xpr - Soldier
> > >
> > > Modifiers:
> > >
> > > oei - young
> > > eie - create/creation
> > > uuo - teaching
> > >
> > > ---
> > >
> > > Examples:
> > >
> > > fowezi - girl, young woman (woman + young)
> > > munuro - instructor/teacher (man + teaching)
> > > hesipe - architecture or masonry (building + creation)
> > > xupuro - drill instruction (soldier + teaching)
> > > hesipe munuro - architecture instructor (building + creation ++ man +
> > > teaching)
> > > kunumo - didactics (academics + teaching)
> > >
> > > ---
> > >
> > > Et cetera. Does this make sense? Is this ANADEW? If it's not ANADEW,
> > > would be it be human learnable? Since this would by nature be a
> > > compound heavy language, it's probably going to be filled with
> > > idiomatic combinations that might not make as easy or as much sense as
> > > the examples I provided.
> > >
> >
 		 	   		  

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