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CONLANG  October 2012, Week 3

CONLANG October 2012, Week 3

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Re: Fwd: speaking of odd romanizations

From:

neo gu <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:35:22 -0400

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On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 20:17:32 -0700, Alex Fink <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 18:14:51 -0400, neo gu <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>>AFMCL, this is a transliteration of a not-yet-developed native orthography, using 18 letters.
>
>This is delightful!

thanks!

>  Essentially no-one designs native alphabetic
>orthographies to have any non-transparentness (even Maggel was written
>in the local Roman alphabet!) and I love seeing examples.  My Pjaukra
>had one; to save on quota I'll say a bit about it below.

My comments on Pjaukra will have to wait -- until I think of some.

>Is yours meant to have an archaeising origin?  If so, the lack of
>separate letters for /b/ and /dZ)/ suggests an odd thing about the
>historical origin of the voiced stops, either that they're all
>fortitions (of an original series like [w] [r] [j] [G]), or that the
>original stop system really went /p t tS k   d g/, with gaps.  If
>there were original /b dZ/ as well the originals would be expected to
>keep their original letters.  (Perhaps unless they merged with the
>fortited ones in their pattern of allophony and then the dupes were
>dropped / reformed out.)

I haven't thought about the history very much except for tones/accents, vowel contractions, and metathesis.

>>q [X]
>
>I would have transcribed the [X] letter as <h>.

What happened is that originally I was using a 22 letter system with u/b, i/j, g/h, and d/r distinguished, so I used q for [X] there and kept it when I came up with the current system, especially since I was considering using h instead of g.

>>other long vowels: [i:], [E:], [a:], [O:], [u:]
>
>How are these spelled?

ig, eg, ag, og, ug (originally ih, eh, ah, oh, uh)

>
>- - - -
>
>Alex

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