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CONLANG  October 2012, Week 5

CONLANG October 2012, Week 5

Subject:

Re: the gripping language on a string instrument?

From:

George Corley <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 31 Oct 2012 18:25:28 -0500

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William Annis would be a good one to ask about this, as he plays the banjo.
 I'm not sure about thumb position = fretting, but it could work.

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Alex Fink <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I recently had the idea that my and Sai's gripping language
> <http://000024.org/conlang/gripping.html> might adapt well to playing
> on some string instrument.  (Really, in view of our terminology and
> writing system for the gripping language, this should've occurred to
> me earlier, but it honestly only managed to occur to me when thinking
> about whether one could make an intro segment for the Conlangery
> podcast out of it!)  But I've never played one, and have only dim
> understandings of how it goes.  So perhaps the collective wisdom of
> the list could help fill in a good trans-coding.
>
>
> First, a review of gripping phonology.  Each syllable (as it were)
> consists of
> * one of 10 _sets of fingers_ being pressed: this is some consecutive
> set of one or more of the fingers (index through pinky, not thumb).
> * the thumb either doing nothing, making one of 5 _thumb presses_
> which form a linear gamut, or making one of the 4 _thumb rubs_ which
> go from the middle of the gamut to one of its ends or vice versa.
> * one of 2 _knucklednesses_: the pressing fingers are either touching
> knuckles or the interstices between them.
>
> In multi-syllable words, there is knuckledness harmony, so that every
> syllable has the same knuckledness.  Also, word boundaries correspond
> to lifting of all fingers, so in order that multi-syllable words don't
> fall to pieces, adjoining syllables in a word have to have at least
> one finger in common between their sets of fingers.
>
> Exceptionally, pronouns are syllables consisting only of thumb
> activity, with no fingers or knuckledness.  There are also a small
> number of words, mostly metachannel control stuff, not formed of
> syllables at all.
>
>
> Now, it seems natural to do something like this.
> * Use a four-stringed instrument (which instrument is best?), and let
> the _sets of fingers_ correspond to the sets of strings being sounded
> at any one time.
> * _Thumb position_ can be which fingering is selected on the strings
> being used.  Ideally one would set this up in such a way that all the
> multi-finger articulations are good chords, but the linearity of the
> five thumb positions is still visible.
> * _Knuckledness_ can, er, perhaps be something like one of two modes
> of strumming / plucking / bowing the strings in question?  I'd like
> them to be audibly distinct, though.  Or maybe something else entirely
> -- maybe major vs. minor chords?  Except that then it's hard to extend
> the distinction to single fingers, isn't it?
>
> I'm not sure yet what to do about the pronouns, or about the word
> boundaries.
>
> Anyone have a good way to fill in, or improve on, the details?
>
> Alex
>

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