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Re: The man is good to the dog.

From:

Casey Borders <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 2 Jan 2013 17:35:21 -0500

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Could you have a way to verb-ize good such that the man goods the dog?

*
*
*Casey Borders*



On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Gary Shannon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I'm working on today's sentences for my 30-day conlang project.
> So far the language is shaping up to be SOVI with a certain hierarchy
> of requirements.
> a sentence may take the form:
>
> V - Run! - imperative
> SV - John runs.
> SOV - John book has.
> SOVI - John book give-to Mary.
>
> There is no need for a preposition with the indirect object because
> the preposition is implied by the verb.
>
> What I haven't allowed so far is anything that uses elements "out of
> order". For example, SVI is not permitted. "John gives-to charity."
> would have to include a placeholder noun "something" so it would be
> "John something gives-to charity."
>
> I tried using prepositions but it didn't feel right: *John book give to
> Mary.
> Although I kind of liked a pospositional suffix: (*?) John book give
> Mary-ward.
>
> Now I'm looking at sentence #59 in the version of McGuffey's that I'm
> using:
>
> The man is good to the dog.
>
> I can't say Man good IS." because the verb I would use for IS in this
> case really just assigns and adjectival attribute to the noun. There
> is no implied preposition or required indirect object. "Apple red is."
>
> I could introduce a preposition: "Man good is concerning dog." But
> that doesn't feel right somehow.
>
> I could "averb-ize" the indirect object: "Man good is dog-ward-ly."
>
> I could have a verb "is-to" which expects and adjective as the direct
> object and a NP as the indirect object:
> "Man good is-to dog." "Taste of fruit good is-to me."
>
> I can have a verb "treats-well" or "is-good-to" and write "Man dog
> treats-well., but that is going to mean a lot more verbs, and a lot
> less generality.
>
> I could introduce adverbs (which the language doesn't have yet) and
> write: "Man dog treats well." but I still don't know where adverbs are
> going to fall in the SOVI scheme of things. (Probably part of V = VP)
>
> So for now I'm working around it until I come up with something that
> feels right to me.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions?
>
> --gary
>

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