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CONLANG  January 2013, Week 2

CONLANG January 2013, Week 2

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Re: Derivation of depart, come, pass, go, arrive...

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MorphemeAddict <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 13 Jan 2013 12:30:05 -0500

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On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Nikolay Ivankov <[log in to unmask]>wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Nikolay Ivankov <[log in to unmask]
> >wrote:
>
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Leonardo Castro <[log in to unmask]
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Are there nat or conlangs whose words for "depart", "come", "pass",
> >> "go" and "arrive" are derived from the same root? How does it work?
> >>
> >> Até mais!
> >>
> >> Leonardo
> >>
> >
> > Russian. u-hodit', pri-hodit', pro-hodit', hodit' (actually, to walk).
> > Arrive is pri-byvat', from the root byt' - to be.
> >
>
> And, by the way:
>
> vy-hodit - to exit, and AFAIK this word is derived form Greek ex-hodous,
>

"exodus"
I had never heard this before. A great insight.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%BD%81%CE%B4%CF%8C%CF%82

stevo


> composed by the same logic: out-going
> v-hodit' - to enter (in-go)
> pere-hodit' - to cross
> s-hodit' - come down
> vos-hodit' - come up, a bit archaic by now, used, for instance, do describe
> inthronisation (come p on a throne)
> is-hodit' - come out, a bit poetic now, in the context of some smell or
> light coming form something. Should have been 'to leave' before.
> za-hodit' - 'to come by' or 'to go behind'
> na-hodit' - 'to find', seems to be used as 'to stick on it when going'.
> Also, a bit archaic 'nahodili na nego tyazhkiye dumy' -
> 'na-hodit'.PLUR.PAST over he.GEN heavy.PLUR.NOM thoughts.NOM' = 'the bad
> thougts bothered him'/
> pod-hodit' - 'to come close', and in modern language also 'to fit'
> po-hodit' - not in this form, but may be used as 'use to be going'. Also
> 'to be alike'.
> do-hodit' - 'to reach', in familiar speech also 'to understand'.
> ob-hodit' - 'to go around', also 'to avoid'.
> pre-hodya-schiy - arch. temporary, ephemere (actually, pre- and pere- are
> OCS and actual Russian versions of the same prefix)
> pere-na-hodit' - though not really grammatical, but people will actually
> undersatand it as 'find one more time'. Some other roots may take several
> prefixes, like:
>
> yeh-al-i - they were going on some sort of transport
> po-yeh-al-i - they went (by some sort of transport)
> na-yeh-al-i - 'dirven over' or 'came in a big number' (usually of migrants)
> po-na-yeh-al-i - 'they have been coming in big numbers (over recent time, I
> suppose)'. One of the unofficial name for Moscow is 'Ponayehali-City'.
> po-na-pri-ezzh-al-i - something like previous, but with some different
> flavour I can't readily describe.
>
> So, basically, by choosing good prepositions, you may make pretty much with
> a single root. ANADEW.
>

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