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CONLANG January 2013, Week 3

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Re: Conlang Writing (was Re: So, about Ithkuil...)

From:

MorphemeAddict <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 21 Jan 2013 23:55:28 -0500

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On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 11:29 PM, Gleki Arxokuna <[log in to unmask]
> wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 2:34 AM, selpa'i <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > la'o me. David Peterson .me cusku di'e
> >
> >  This has been bothering me for a little bit, so I wanted to respond.
> >>
> >> On Jan 20, 2013, at 10:44 AM, selpa'i <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>
> >>  Well maybe it would make an interesting article if a person had not
> >>> only tried, but also succeeded. Just "Person X is trying to learn
> >>> Ithkuil" doesn't sound very interesting until there is some
> >>> evidence that Person X is actually making noteworthy progress. (Not
> >>> to mention how anticlimactic it would be to announce in the next
> >>> article that Person X failed!)
> >>>
> >>
> >> I could not disagree more. Provided you could detail what it is
> >> you're attempting, what specific challenges you're having, what you
> >> attempt to do to overcome them, etc., it would prove a *very*
> >> interesting article, even if you could claim no success in the
> >> endeavor. Indeed, if you *did* fail in your estimation, the record
> >> would validate the entire endeavor!
> >>
> >
> > Yes, certainly. My worry in such a situation however would be that an
> > article that explains how someone failed at learning Ithkuil could easily
> > make people believe that it's *proof* for Ithkuil being unlearnable. I
> > don't want that.
> >
> > I agree with the rest though you said above though.
> >
> >
> >  This, I think, is one of the problems with conlangers learning from
> >> each other. Those of us who've been on the Conlang-L for a while (and
> >> the same would be true of any other single forum that one conlanger
> >> could keep track of) have seen others struggling with different goals
> >> or attempts at a conlang, trying different tacks, eventually
> >> succeeding, etc., and I think anyone who is able to follow that
> >> experience gains invaluable insight into the endeavor. That insight,
> >> though, generally doesn't go beyond those who were paying attention.
> >> It is fantastic that the Conlang Archives are public, but that's only
> >> so helpful if you don't know what you're looking for—even if you just
> >> want to browse.
> >>
> > > [...]
> >
> >  As a result, when new conlangers emerge in one of the many, many
> >> venues now on the internet, they end up retreading many of the paths
> >> that have been tread before. While that experience isn't worthless,
> >> it's not necessary. The catalogues of those early endeavors, though,
> >> are all but inaccessible, even if they're available.
> >>
> >
> > Okay, now this seems to be going in different direction entirely. I'm not
> > sure how much of it was directed at me specifically, but I'm not at all
> new
> > to conlanging. Also, for me, learning Ithkuil would not be a conlanging
> > activity (at least not chiefly), but simply a language learning activity,
> > no different from learning Aymara for instance. The only difference
> between
> > learning a natural language and Ithkuil - and the reason that makes it
> > interesting - is that Ithkuil is believed to be unlearnable. The
> > possibility of proving this belief wrong is what motivates me, just as it
> > did with Fith (though I ended up creating my own LIFO stack conlang
> instead
> > of learning the actual Fith).
> >
>
>
> ma kibro judri lo fitx gerna cukta i ma  kibro judri lo cukta co bangu pe
> do
>

I know this is Lojban, but what does it mean?
I understand it as something like "What is the address of the Fith book?
What is the address of your language book?"

stevo

>
>
> > mu'o mi'e la selpa'i
> >
>

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