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CONLANG  January 2013, Week 4

CONLANG January 2013, Week 4

Subject:

Re: Sort of Future English (was: Verb Articles)

From:

Leonardo Castro <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 13:09:09 +0100

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Interesting, but I have competence to assess your previsions. Your
last "evolved" paragraph is almost completely uninteligible to me.

Maybe the most reliable short-term changes in a language are
incorporation of features that people already use informally in the
formal language.

Judging by how Brazilian teenagers write on Internet, I could guess
that future Brazilian Portuguese ortography will be more phonemic and
many diacritics will die.

Notably, they replace
/k/-sounding <c> with <k>
/z/-sounding <s> with <z>
/w/-or-unstressed-/u/-sounding <u> with <w>
nasalized <em> /ej/ and <o> /w/ with <ein> and <aum>

casa /k'az@/ -> kaza
camisa -> kamiza
co -> kaum
no -> naum
nem -> nein
falou -> falow -> flw

At mais!

Leonardo


2013/1/15 Nikolay Ivankov <[log in to unmask]>:
> This day I was sort of bunching with the idea of how English words and
> phrases could have like become sort of functional words, that could be
> really used as articles for both nouns and verbs. Indeed, we can like have
> an example:
>
> I'm sort of going home, and I like see this guy.
> I'm like going home, and I really see this guy.
> I'm really going home, and I sorta see this guy.
> I'm really going home and, and I really see this guy.
>
> I won't like try to find the really precise difference between these
> phrases. In the end, I'm not, like, native speaker of English, so I can
> sort of get it all wrong. But let's sort of make an attempt of, like,
> conworlding and, like, conlanging, in which the use of these words in the
> above sense like underwent sort of grammaticalization.
>
> So, we sorta have like speakers of English, that are like stuck on sorta
> desert island, sorta really like in "LOST" style. They are sorta literate,
> but as da time really pass end da generaishns chanj, the orfografy rilly
> becomes sorta mess since you luyk olwaiz reely hav bettur thin's to doo
> when you'r on a sotta dezzit uiland, an' da ruitin' is dun buy reely smut
> guys.
>
> Ol so, sins da uiland is relle smol, U laek nou reele olda thinnz, sodda ol
> urtikliz "a" 'n' "the" rele becam cunfiozzit, cuz U rele can't tel if U
> wanna say "and a" or "and the", 'n' thei luik suwoont similaa, 'n' ol so
> you rele use 'sota', 'rele' and 'luik' widdem anewai. So rele ol' aateklez
> "a" 'n' sota becom patts of reye wodds luk "so the -> sudda = ol'guy so"
> 'n' you reye staat ioozin 'luh', 'rey' and 'soa' en stett uv them.
>
> Azza rey santores soa pus, you soa and up widda luh tulk widda luh thre
> uteklez dat rey mai be iozt fo baath rey nawnz 'n' rey vaabs, widda soa
> deffaan' praapetes, 'n' dis iozaj iz nuw both luh oblegaytore 'n'
> gramatekul. Fu luh enstuns, "rey" sota is nuw luh dafenet aatekl 'n'
> putekolur akshin, "luh" is soa wun-tuym akshin 'n' "soa" is wun ovda luh
> hubetooal akshins, 'n' both last wuns uh luh deferan' endafenet aateklis.
>
> Well, maybe you like have sort of other ideas? It would be really nice to
> know, what could like be other ways of really making sort of verb articles
> really diachronically.
>
> Riy bast weshis,
>
> Kolya

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