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CONLANG  January 2013, Week 4

CONLANG January 2013, Week 4

Subject:

Re: Sort of Future English (was: Verb Articles)

From:

Nikolay Ivankov <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 13:43:43 +0100

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On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Leonardo Castro <[log in to unmask]>wrote:

> Interesting, but I have competence to assess your previsions. Your
> last "evolved" paragraph is almost completely uninteligible to me.
>

Yep, it seems I shouldn't have "evolved" things that much.


> Maybe the most reliable short-term changes in a language are
> incorporation of features that people already use informally in the
> formal language.
>
> Judging by how Brazilian teenagers write on Internet, I could guess
> that future Brazilian Portuguese ortography will be more phonemic and
> many diacritics will die.
>
> Notably, they replace
> /k/-sounding <c> with <k>
> /z/-sounding <s> with <z>
> /w/-or-unstressed-/u/-sounding <u> with <w>
> nasalized <em> /ej/ and <o> /w/ with <ein> and <aum>
>
> casa /k'az@/ -> kaza
> camisa -> kamiza
> co -> kaum
> no -> naum
> nem -> nein
> falou -> falow -> flw
>
> At mais!
>
> Leonardo
>
>
> 2013/1/15 Nikolay Ivankov <[log in to unmask]>:
> > This day I was sort of bunching with the idea of how English words and
> > phrases could have like become sort of functional words, that could be
> > really used as articles for both nouns and verbs. Indeed, we can like
> have
> > an example:
> >
> > I'm sort of going home, and I like see this guy.
> > I'm like going home, and I really see this guy.
> > I'm really going home, and I sorta see this guy.
> > I'm really going home and, and I really see this guy.
> >
> > I won't like try to find the really precise difference between these
> > phrases. In the end, I'm not, like, native speaker of English, so I can
> > sort of get it all wrong. But let's sort of make an attempt of, like,
> > conworlding and, like, conlanging, in which the use of these words in the
> > above sense like underwent sort of grammaticalization.
> >
> > So, we sorta have like speakers of English, that are like stuck on sorta
> > desert island, sorta really like in "LOST" style. They are sorta
> literate,
> > but as da time really pass end da generaishns chanj, the orfografy rilly
> > becomes sorta mess since you luyk olwaiz reely hav bettur thin's to doo
> > when you'r on a sotta dezzit uiland, an' da ruitin' is dun buy reely smut
> > guys.
> >
> > Ol so, sins da uiland is relle smol, U laek nou reele olda thinnz, sodda
> ol
> > urtikliz "a" 'n' "the" rele becam cunfiozzit, cuz U rele can't tel if U
> > wanna say "and a" or "and the", 'n' thei luik suwoont similaa, 'n' ol so
> > you rele use 'sota', 'rele' and 'luik' widdem anewai. So rele ol'
> aateklez
> > "a" 'n' sota becom patts of reye wodds luk "so the -> sudda = ol'guy so"
> > 'n' you reye staat ioozin 'luh', 'rey' and 'soa' en stett uv them.
> >
> > Azza rey santores soa pus, you soa and up widda luh tulk widda luh thre
> > uteklez dat rey mai be iozt fo baath rey nawnz 'n' rey vaabs, widda soa
> > deffaan' praapetes, 'n' dis iozaj iz nuw both luh oblegaytore 'n'
> > gramatekul. Fu luh enstuns, "rey" sota is nuw luh dafenet aatekl 'n'
> > putekolur akshin, "luh" is soa wun-tuym akshin 'n' "soa" is wun ovda luh
> > hubetooal akshins, 'n' both last wuns uh luh deferan' endafenet aateklis.
> >
> > Well, maybe you like have sort of other ideas? It would be really nice to
> > know, what could like be other ways of really making sort of verb
> articles
> > really diachronically.
> >
> > Riy bast weshis,
> >
> > Kolya
>

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