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CONLANG  January 2013, Week 4

CONLANG January 2013, Week 4

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Re: Loglan[g] VS Natlang

From:

MorphemeAddict <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 23 Jan 2013 18:34:55 -0500

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On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Leonardo Castro <[log in to unmask]>wrote:

> 2013/1/23 Leonardo Castro <[log in to unmask]>:
> >
> > Other claims I have heard:
> >
> > (a) English speakers are more intelligent than many others because the
> > ortography of English is more irregular, so an English speaker will
> > have trained more their* brain by the age they become literate.
> > * singular their.
>
> Another possible subtle disadvantage of very regular ortographies is
> that child students can have more problem to distinguish letter from
> sound ( ("grapheme" from "phone/phoneme" in our jargon). But I don't
> know if the irregularity of English orthography solves this "problem"
> because I have the impression that some anglophone children also think
> they "a" _is_ /ei/. I wonder if they even notice that the "a" of
> "latter" is different from that of "later".
>

OTOH, kids learn word pairs like nation/national, bath/bathe. Or do they no
perceive these to be different sounds?

stevo

>
> Sometimes it's incredible what even adults don't perceive in its
> language. I have know people who's hardly convinced that pairs like
> "v" and "f" are articulated in the same way. Many Brazilians don't
> note that they pronounce the t's of "ta" and "ti" different from each
> other: in many dialects, they are /ta/ and /tSi/, and others can't be
> convinced that the "t" of "ti" is more similar to those of "ta, te,
> to, tu" in dialects of Nordeste (which is considered "wrong
> Portuguese" by some people). Finally, many are not aware that they
> reduce /o/ to /u/ and /e/ to /i/ in many words.
>
> Somebody has once told me that Americans usually don't perceive that
> they "flap" their "t" and "d" (although it's obvious for strangers
> whose /t/ and /d/ are not related to the alveolar flap).
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intervocalic_alveolar_flapping
>

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