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CONLANG January 2013, Week 4

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Re: Conlang music (was RE: Orthography congruous to pronunciation)

From:

Adam Walker <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 25 Jan 2013 09:58:23 -0600

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On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Roger Mills <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> --- On Thu, 1/24/13, Adam Walker <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> the simple answer is *here's* Tunisia, but their territory stretches from
> the western bit of Libya to the easter 2/3 of Algeria's coast, about to
> Oran.
>
> Adam
>
> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Garth Wallace <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Adam Walker <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > I haven't really made up my mind about Carraxan music either. One
> > > thing I continually debate is how much influence Arab music should
> > > have. Should Carraxan music use the quarter tones? Should it sould
> > > like Sardinian or Corsican polyphony? Should it sounnd like Radio
> > > Tarifa? Should there be clear Troubador influence? I just can't quite
> > > make up my mind for more than a few days at a stretch.
> >
> > Polyphonic singing with quarter tones would be pretty interesting to
> > hear. Where are the Carraxans located again?
> >
> ============================================
>
> I can certainly see some Arabic influence, but also Jewish,


Yes, but *which* Jewish musical influence?  Certainly not Klezmer!!


> and what about pre-Islamic Berber/Tuareg music?



Most definitely...if I had the foggiest notion what Berber music sounded
like in 500AD.


> and Greek Orthodox?


Yes, actually, this is one of the musics I listen to when I'm trying to
work out in my head what Carraxan music ough to sound like, and Greek folk
music as well.


> and of course Roman Catholic~European. Maybe something like Spanish
> Mozarabic liturgical music, of which some has been preserved? IIRC your
> elite/ruling family is of European origin, no? Didn't they stem from the
> Vandal (Germanic) invasion of N.AFrica?


They're Norman French, actually.  From the Norman Kingdom of Sicily.



> Maybe too early for troubador influence, but by early Renaissance times,
> that could have reached Carraxa..........


Well, The Kingdom of Talosa is now Donatist.  And there has been some
intermarrying of the ruling houses.



> Do we know anything about Donatist liturgical usages? Very early I'd
> suspect, so probably monophonic.



In the real world, I don't think we know anything, but in my world, I'm
assuming that it sounds very much like the Maronite and other non-Greek
Orthodox Churches of the Middle East.


> But "popular" music could be a mix of everything :-))) depending on much
> much interaction there is between the various ethnic groups.
>
> I don't recall your historical work exactly-- has it reached modern times
> yet?
>

Not yet.  I'm still stuck in the 1300's.

Adam

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