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CONLANG  February 2013, Week 1

CONLANG February 2013, Week 1

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Re: Not really a conlang...

From:

R A Brown <[log in to unmask]>

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Date:

Mon, 4 Feb 2013 08:13:44 +0000

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On 03/02/2013 16:13, Roger Mills wrote:
> --- On Sun, 2/3/13, R A Brown wrote:
[snip]
>> - as you can see from my TAKE, if I'm going to simplify
>> a language I like to get rid of all inflexions, if
>> possible. IMO the so-called "Latino sine flexione" has
>> retained too many!  But that is a personal preference,
>> I know.
>
> RM I don't object to a "few" inflections....

Yes, I guess a few are acceptable in a simplified conlang.
But IMO if something calls itself "X sine flexione" then it
should do what it says.  In fact "Latino sine flexione" is
*not* "sine flexione" - but I guess "Latino cum paucissimis
flexionibus" doesn't look as neat   ;)

In the case of TAKE, I took it as part of the challenge to
do the thing without any inflexions.

Of course Jeffrey doesn't claim his Sim-Arabic is without
inflexions, just simplified.  But ...

> I'd have to examine the materials more closely, however.
> Offhand, I'm not at all sure it's necessary to retain
> the masc/fem differences in the tenses, but that, I know,
> is one of Arabic's features.....

Division of the universe into things masculine & things
feminine is one of the features of Romancelangs and of
Insular Celtic.  But I would not expect such an _arbitrary_
system to be retained in a _simplified_ Romance conlang or
Celtic conlang.  Learning arbitrary gender distinctions for
non living things does not make a language simple.

Farsi is an IE language that has dropped grammatical gender;
it has borrowed heavily from Arabic and seems quite happy
not to assign arbitrary gender to such borrowings.

-- 
Ray
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for individual beings and events."
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