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CONLANG May 2013, Week 3

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Re: Conscripts and computers

From:

George Marques de Jesus <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 21 May 2013 01:05:47 -0300

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Well, it's not different of the way I thought it should work, I'm not so
bad in guessing, at least.

But now I don't know *how* to create such slots and permutations with the
font, so the word processor would understand and prettify everything. I
will dive into FontForge and see what I can do.

George Marques
http://georgemarques.com.br


2013/5/21 Casey Borders <[log in to unmask]>

> My thought is that you wouldn't need every combination you just need each
> letter in each permutation. So you need to look at how you're forming your
> blocks and find out how many different slots you have and make a version of
> each letter that fits into each slot. Then, when you type, it would be
> something like :
>
> Upper Left B
> Upper Right R
> Middle A
> Lower D
>
> Then the space character could move you on to the next block.  Depending on
> the complexity of your combination system it could still be quite a few
> permutations but you should be able to get away with less than 35K.
> On May 20, 2013 11:30 PM, "George Marques de Jesus" <
> [log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> > I'm finally trying to develop a conscript. I liked the way Hangul works,
> so
> > I thought to do something with the same idea: an alphabet that groups
> > letters into syllables. I sketched some letters in the paper, but then I
> > realized I had no idea how to use them in the computer. I know plenty
> about
> > computers, as a hobbyist programmer, though only almost nothing about
> > fonts.
> >
> > I searched to see how Hangul fonts are designed, because I think nobody
> > goes creating 11k glyphs for a font (well, maybe someone does, but
> besides
> > the time it'd take, that'd use some good extra space in the hard drive
> and
> > RAM). So I wanted to know how they combine to look pretty as they do,
> but I
> > found nothing about it (TBH I do found something here:
> > http://www.microsoft.com/typography/otfntdev/hangulot/shaping.htm only
> it
> > didn't help me much)
> >
> > If my math is good, I have over 35k possibilities for syllables (35490 to
> > be exact), so I'm not going to make glyph for everything (I'll probably
> > even *use* all combinations).
> >
> > And my questions are: are there any resources about how Hangul font are
> > designed? Are there any specific software that can build something
> similar
> > to it (specially a free one)? Is this even possible to do (considering
> that
> > I have over 3 times more possibilities than Hangul and somewhat different
> > way of combining)? Should I give up and stick with pencil and paper?
> >
> > George Marques
> > http://georgemarques.com.br
> >
>

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