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CONLANG  May 2013, Week 5

CONLANG May 2013, Week 5

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Re: Is this a good place to present Ehenív?

From:

Mechthild Czapp <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 29 May 2013 23:46:07 +0100

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> After so many accolades, I hate to be critical. FSM knows I'm not
> very good at creating a language, and I don't want to discourage you.
> 
> But your language seems to be a relex of English with Yoda-speak
> word order.
> 
> ata = am
> af = are
> aš = is
> 
> Is there no distinction between "her" as an object and as a possessive?
>  
> How would you say, "My neighbor painted the house of the man who
> robbed the bank where I keep my money." ?
> 
> (and is the word for "queen" really "latifa"???)

Nothing wrong with inside jokes. Rejistanian uses tons of them. Kamakawi does as well (pika!). And I don't know any constructed language which does not. 

> 
> --Ph. D.
> 
> Nina-Kristine Johnson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> *E-me!* I'm indeed flattered with all the positive responses I've received.
>> *Č*o*l**š**ake, šan fandi, kittit!* (Thank-you very much, everyone!). ^_^
>> 
>> Admittedly, the grammar is a bit odd. I used Japanese as an inspiration and
>> some *Yoda*. But it is a bit different from Japanese. I apologise if the
>> structure breakdown sounds awkward and all over the place.
>> 
>> For some reason, though...it seems to *flow together*. I tested this by
>> writing (and am filming!) my own movie. I have 4 scenes done but the
>> project is on hold because of work and lack of time.
>> 
>> Coming to YouTube!
>> 
>> Anyway...in response to some questions. I would be happy to answer. ^_^
>> 
>> There are a few different variations of syntax, but all share a basic
>> structure.
>> 
>> *1. Thing you're talking about (object or person)*
>> 
>> ex: *Dali *(life)
>> 
>> I begin the statement by emphasizing that I will be speaking of Life.
>> 
>> *2. Adjective* *(when needed...as with other languages: not all statements
>> require an adjective)*
>> 
>> This comes before the subject.
>> *
>> *
>> *ex. Sošir * (correct)
>> 
>> *3. Subject*
>> 
>> ex. *Sa adila* (my mother)
>> 
>> *4. Verb*
>> *
>> *
>> ex. aš (is)
>> 
>> There are exceptions to beginning the structure with *dali*...*hawal *
>> (about)* dali* (how I would write it, personally).
>> 
>> *Hawal dali, sošir, sa adila aš* (My mother is correct about life--or
>> simply "Mother is right").
>> 
>> Variations of this include adding more *subjects*. Adjectives need not
>> apply in some cases.
>> 
>> Best way to illustrate it is if I use it in a sentence.
>> 
>> ex. *Ísk malųpe, **sæ, sa adila aktalt*. (A kitten, me, my mother gave or
>> My mother gave me a kitten).
>> 
>> *Subject 1, pronoun (in this case), subject 2, and verb (past tense). *
>> 
>> *Aktalt* is literally *gived*. Also, no adjective was used in this
>> sentence.
>> 
>> And to answer the question about adjectives...
>> 
>> There are exceptions to placement of these. *These pertain to Subject
>> # 1 *(numerical,
>> mostly, but you can use colour, age, size)
>> 
>> *Zay **malųpe-e* (2 kittens), *sæ, sa adila aktalt. *(My mother gave me two
>> kittens).
>> 
>> or
>> 
>> *Ísk sarni malųpe, **sæ, sa adila aktalt*. (My mother gave me a black
>> kitten).
>> 
>> or
>> 
>> *Zay sarni **malųpe-e* (2 kittens), *sæ, sa adila aktalt. *(my mother gave
>> me two black kittens).
>> 
>> *For subject # 2 (the one one that comes before verb)*
>> 
>> ex. *Yųg dali, tisala, e'ata*. (I'm happy with life).
>> 
>> In this scenario: the adjective is not directly attributed to the topic at
>> hand. (in this case: *dali*).
>> 
>> And of course the use of multiple verbs in a sentence. I feel if I
>> demonstrate it: it would be better.
>> 
>> *ex: Va saykas, sakt, és e-éna. *(I need to go to the store).
>> 
>> Va Saykas, Sakt (verb1), és e-éna* *(verb 2)
>> 
>> If you want to add a specific time: that would go between the noun and verb
>> 1.
>> 
>> *Va saykas, ra yanæ, **sakt, és e-éna *(I need to go to the store, today).
>> 
>> Time, adjective, and adverbs all go in one place.
>> 
>> I could go on and on citing examples in this way (if you lot have the
>> time...I just might).
>> 
>> *And finally: about word creation.*
>> 
>> For some of these: I took a cue from Chinese. I studied Mandarin at
>> university and found it interesting that the word for computer was
>> literally *electric brain* (which I sort of copied for *Ehenví*...). Also,
>> the word for *cheese* is quite literally *Old milk*.
>> 
>> The other words were either taken from another language (ex. French word
>> for *Tree* and the German word for *Honey*), what I associate with a
>> concept or word (ex: I actually morphed work colleagues' names into words
>> or how I feel about them; *Stylish* and *Kindness* are taken from their
>> names) or I just come up with a word in my head. The verb *sakt* is a good
>> example of "off the top of the head".
>> 
>> The words for *Kitten* and *Puppy* are actually a mix of these.
>> 
>> *Mala + Lųpethl *(Little Cat)
>> 
>> *Mala + Bénkal *(Little Dog)
>> 
>> *Dog* = dog names (Bentley and my aunt's dog, Rascal)
>> 
>> *Cat *= cats names (Lucy, Pele, and Ethel)
>> 
>> Please let me know if I forgot something or I messed up my wording. Also if
>> there are questions: I love answering them (better than answering questions
>> at work! I don't know why your circuit got messed up or why the server
>> forgot your password!).
>> 
>> I rarely get to tell people about the language and how it works. And those
>> who I do tell are interested but are like *oh goodness! I don't understand
>> a word you're saying. Still think your language is adorable.*
>> 
>> *Ho pas ingrasa víd-e, bi čol, šan fandi, és kitit!* (I thank you all very
>> much for your kind words).
>> 
>> Tisala-e!,
>> Kristine ^_^

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