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CONLANG June 2013, Week 1

Subject:

Re: English Orthography in the Future

From:

Casey Borders <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sat, 1 Jun 2013 21:06:19 -0700

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I don't think it's such a stretch to say that there will be significant
changes in the next 50 years. American English is already significantly
different than British English and I think it will just pick up speed with
the amazing ease with which we are able to communicate today.
On Jun 1, 2013 11:50 PM, "Matthew Boutilier" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> i no. i'm just seying, it wood be grate if dhare WIRR such a developmint.
>
> hauever, i doo not agree dhet in a meer FIFTEE yeers wee wil see enee
> substanchel changiz in RITTIN - viddelisit PRINTID - inglish. if eneething,
> i think dhare wil simplee bee a *wider* discrepansee bitween *formel rittin
> inglish* and, sey, dha langwidge yuzed in text messidges.
>
> but if yu're telling mee dhet academmic papers and leghel contraxs and wat
> not wil al bee rittin in SMS-spelling haff a sencheree frum nau, i think
> dhat's ridicyulis.
>
> mat
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Gary Shannon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > It was my impression from the article that silent 'e' would NOT
> > disappear. Only letters that are truly silent, i.e. ones that have NO
> > effect on pronunciation would tend to disappear. The "b" in "doubt",
> > for example.
> >
> > Remember, this is NOT a planned project to change English spelling,
> > but an observation concerning what is already beginning to happen
> > spontaneously to spelling with tweets, text messages, and instant
> > messaging. So the author is not proposing anything, he is merely
> > recording what he has already observed. And he has not observed the
> > silent "e" going away.
> >
> > --gary
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 8:15 PM, MorphemeAddict <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > > Silent 'e' is important in English spelling, and getting rid of it
> > without
> > > some form of compensatory respelling would introduce more ambiguity to
> > what
> > > we already have. It's often the only way to distinguish between
> so-called
> > > long and short vowels, e.g., spin/spine.  I suggest making it more
> > regular,
> > > so that moon become moone, food become foode, but foot stay the same.
> > > In fact, I may just start spelling such words that way.
> > >
> > > stevo
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Gary Shannon <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/hay-festival/10093089/Hay-Festival-2013-Irritating-silent-letters-could-become-obsolete.html
> > >>
> > >> Leading linguist David Crystal tells the Telegraph Hay Festival 2013
> > >> that in 50 years' time silent letters will be dropped from many common
> > >> words, thanks to the internet.
> > >>
> > >> The internet will make English misspellings acceptable, according to
> > >> one of the country’s most senior linguists, who predicts that in 50
> > >> years’ time many common words will be spelt without “irritating”
> > >> silent letters.
> > >>
> > >> David Crystal, currently professor of linguists at Bangor University,
> > >> told the Telegraph Hay Festival that it would be “inevitable” that
> > >> people would drop the ‘p’ from receipt, and change the ‘c’ from
> > >> necessary into a ‘s’, as well as “simplifying” other words.
> > >>
> > >> ...
> > >>
> > >> He said it was neither good nor bad that spelling was changing, but it
> > >> was “inevitable” in the same way that judgment without the middle ‘e’
> > >> was now acceptable in many publishers and newspaper style guides.
> > >>
> > >> ...
> > >>
> > >> (More at the link above)
> > >>
> > >> --gary
> > >>
> >
>

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