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CONLANG  June 2013, Week 4

CONLANG June 2013, Week 4

Subject:

Re: New toy conlang sketch

From:

BPJ <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:04:33 +0200

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2013-06-27 08:32, Alex Fink skrev:
> On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 17:18:09 -0700, H. S. Teoh<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> >On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 06:52:38PM -0500, George Corley
>> >wrote:
>
>>> >>Even then, <ts'> might have been a better choice (I think
>>> >>it's been used in other schemes).
>> >
>> >I would go for that, except that the apostrophe is already
>> >overused for too many things, so I'd like to avoid it if
>> >possible. But I'll keep <ts'> in mind; at least for now, it
>> >looks to be a far better alternative than <q>.
> Well, to me, the biggest (likely) problem with your use of <q>
> [ts)_h], that no-one's made explicit yet, is its relation to
> <ts> [ts)]. Having a letter for the aspirate when you just use
> a cluster for the simplex is really strange, though slightly
> less so if [+aspirated] is the unmarked member of the
> opposition, and significantly less so if/ts)_h/ is somehow one-of-a-
> kind in the inventory. Are there other aspirate vs. plain
> contrasts, and if so how do you romanise them?
>
>> >I was considering using/h/ as an aspiration marker, but then
>> >it's already being used for /?/, and besides, <tsh> suggests
>> >[tS)] more than [ts)ʰ].
> Eh, I don't much like the correspondence <sh> [S], so this
> wouldn't worry me personally.
>

I always kind of liked the solution used in a book on Tibetan
pronunciation I have. The author, a Tibetan scholar, also has
qualms about <tsh> suggesting [tʃ] so he uses /ts/ = <tz> and
/tsʰ/ = <ts> even though he otherwise uses Wylie
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wylie_transliteration>.

And I'd definitely use <q> (Maltese!) or even <'> for /ʔ/
since there likely is a /h/ in the lang if it has aspirates.

(Come to think of it: given the shapes of Hebrew <א> and <ע>
I can't help imagining a conlang which uses <x> /ʔ/ and <y> /ʕ/!)

/bpj

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