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CONLANG August 2013, Week 2

Subject:

Re: Naming Things

From:

Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 9 Aug 2013 00:42:17 -0400

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I admit I used a generator for naming the cities and villages. That sparked
some ideas, and I came up with a few like the ones you've listed. I don't
have a Red Hill, but I do have the following:
 Red Falls
Red Springs
Red Summer
Red Winters
Steamy Falls
Steamy Springs
Steamy Summer
Steamy Winters

I have others, one is actually a character in a book, I have more I can
mention in the serial, but not publish, due to the fact it's a list of
character names I bought.

The terms for things I just come up with them.
I also have a Blue Park Lane.
A member on another list came up with the name Yardish for the language.
Mellissa Green


@GreenNovelist

-----Original Message-----
From: Constructed Languages List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Matthew Boutilier
Sent: Friday, August 9, 2013 12:30 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Naming Things

that's a perfectly good way of doing it. my conlangs have a pretty strong
historical dimension, so even though something was transparently named e.g.
"Red Hill" somewhere back in history it might've gotten fossilized as
"Reddul" or "Ro-dille" or something (you know, but a conlang equivalent).

i also take many placenames and personal names from *other* of my
concultures (some of which i haven't even fleshed out beyond such words).
geographical names - of mountains, rivers, forests, etc. - are especially
apt to be retained when a people speaking one language overtakes another.
but i've extended this even personal names.

i always think of the situation i encountered in Egypt, where probably the
majority of people have muslim names in Arabic that mean things like "most
praiseworthy" or "happy" or whatever with perfect transparency; but then
you've got people with these ancient Coptic names - *Shenouda* comes to
mind - that don't mean a damn thing anymore, they're just nice names.

which amounts to, often, i'll just make up a cool-sounding word and pretend
that at some point in history it meant something significant in some other
neighboring conculture. i make verisimilitude a top priority in my
conlanging, and even i have zero problem with just pulling a name out of
nowhere, assuming it fits into the appropriate contemporary phonology and
phonotactics and whatever.

for what it's worth, the name of my principal conlang *does* mean
"people-ish" basically. actually, "of the tribe" (but there are a bunch of
tribes, so it's sort of ambiguous; sort of like Deutsch vs Dutch vs
*duits*i suppose). but i have a lot of concultures (all kind of
existing in the
same con-world) that just have random meaningless words as their names.

matt


On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Patrick VanDusen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> How do you name things in your languages? Are all of your languages called
> "The speech"? Are all of your concultures who speak the language called
> "The people"? Do all of your towns have names like "Red Hill" or "Green
> Groves"?
>
> I ask because this is a weird mental sticking point for me--I never go
much
> beyond naming languages, but the act of naming things always seems so
> *forced* to me. I end up gravitating toward names like the examples I gave
> above, but I can never get over the feeling that this is NOT how things
are
> named.
>
> Patrick
>

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