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Re: Diminutive -ie/-y (was: Colloquial French resources)

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Eric Christopherson <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 2 Sep 2013 20:30:31 -0500

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On Sep 2, 2013, at 11:02 AM, R A Brown <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> On 02/09/2013 16:26, C. Brickner wrote:
>> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> [snip]
> 
>>> I've just been reading As a speaker of Australasian
>>> English, I'm reminded of the "softening" of registers
>>> by the use of the diminutive suffix: "bikkie" for
>>> biscuit, "hankie" for handkerchief, etc, in
>>> Australasian English.
>> _________________________________________________
>> 
>> I should think that the use of the diminutive suffix is
>> common throughout the Anglophone world.
> 
> So should I.
> 
>> I'm from the Commonwealth of Virginia, USA, and I've said
>> "hankie" all my life.
> 
> Just as I have all my life here in the UK    ;)
> 
> Also _bickie/bicky_ is common enough here, tho IME used more
> often to children - but by no means exclusively so.
> 
>> Then there's puppy, kitty, potty, nightie, piggy, and a
>> host of others.
> 
> Yep, we have them all this side of the Pond also.  This
> morning I had a bit brecky before I went out and later this
> evening I shall be watching the telly; rain is forecast for
> this coming Friday, so I may well be wearing my wellies
> (wellington boots) then.
> 
> Yep - AFAIK the diminutive -ie/-y is fairly universal
> throughout anglophonia.

My favorite -/i/ noun currently is _compy_ "computer", as seen at least in the Homestar Runner web cartoon. I'm not sure how much currency it has outside of that cartoon's audience, though. _Celly_ "cellular phone" is also good. Neither one is particularly British or Australian.

However, I do feel intuitively that adding -/i/ (and especially when the word is shortened first) is more common in Australian (and perhaps in the UK as well), e.g. _brecky_.  Likewise there are some colloquial nouns ending in -/o/ here in the US, but I tend to think that suffix is more productive at least in Australia (e.g. _arvo_ "afternoon" -- which additionally shows a voicing, as in _Aussie_, which has always puzzled me a little). But perhaps the number of nouns using those suffixes is fairly equal among different Englishes, but each one has a slightly different (but often overlapping) set of such?

Finally, I notice that some such words orthographically have -_ie_ while some have -_y_ (and maybe a few even have -_ey_); similarly with hypochoristic names. I'm not sure what rhyme or reason there is to that choice, although my intuition (there it is again) is that -_ie_ is used more often when actual smallness is being asserted.

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