Most of the details of this are way above my technical paygrade, but there
is one message that comes through loud and clear. If people outside the
TEI community complain (as they do) that the TEI is very (or
unnecessarily) complicated/inconsistent and shy away from it for that
reason, this thread will give them lots of ammunition.
If there is a site that shows TEI by example, you shouldn't have to know
about all these variables to make sense of it. And most of them take a
little more than sticking stuff in the microwave, to use Piotr's charming
There are a few folks (I'm not one of them), for whom the fixing of any of
these problems is a 30 second affair. There are more folks for whom this
is one more reason to stay away from the TEI in the first place.
I know that true TEIers will think of this as hopeless ignorantism. But if
you want to get newbies hooked on the TEI, the approaches need to be a lot
simpler and a lot more coherent. Or, as Bill Clinton said memorably, "you
have to put the corn where the hogs can get at it."
Professor emeritus of English and Classics
On 11/21/13 3:32 PM, "Piotr Bański" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>On 11/21/2013 10:21 PM, Sebastian Rahtz wrote:
>>> Exactly. For one thing, the National Corpus of Polish files were posted
>>> on the Web separately as the source TEI, the relevant schema and the
>>> relevant ODD, but no attempt was made to make them usable *in situ*.
>> eh? if they are TEI XML, they are valid against tei_all. If they're
>>not, they're not...
>> what is this idea of "source TEI"?
>Scratch the "source", please, it's irrelevant. You complained about the
>schema not being there, I was just pointing out that what's posted on
>Web needn't function right there where it's posted.
>>> The idea is: download the desired parts of the set, and you can thus
>>> assemble a TEI-compliant (sub)system, on your disk. Only half of this
>>> lunch is free. The microwaving is on you...
>> i don't think I had any interest (today) in _using_ the resources. I
>> curious as to whether TEI examples on the web were in fact valid TEI.
>> but thank you, Piotr, because your ODD file showed up an error in P5
>> which I was about to commit, so you saved me some embarrassment...
>You are always welcome ;-) Of course, I have no idea what you are
>referring to. Please remember that that ODD is at least 3 years old.
>Back then, the files validated (if the header was include-able), and the
>ODD validated as well.