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CONLANG  December 2013, Week 3

CONLANG December 2013, Week 3

Subject:

Re: quick YAEPT query

From:

And Rosta <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 17 Dec 2013 01:25:53 +0000

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Herman Miller, On 17/12/2013 00:20:
> On 12/16/2013 10:54 AM, And Rosta wrote:
>
>> "Foreign" A,E,I,O,U (when followed by a consonant) in lgs like Italian
>> and Spanish with unweird spelling (so not French) get mapped to
>> TRAP,DRESS,KIT,LOT,FOOT in British English (in loans or when foreign
>> words or names are being pronounced in English). In American English, A
>> and O map instead to PALM and GOAT. My question is, do E,I,U map to
>> FACE,FLEECE,GOOSE in American English? Or do they map to DRESS,KIT,FOOT?
>> (By "American English" I mean "prevailing tendencies", not
>> idiosyncrasies of idiolects (interesting tho those nonetheless still are).)
>
> Can you give examples of "followed by a consonant"? I think it
> depends on which consonant and whether it's at the end of a syllable
> or the beginning of the next.

I just meant to rule out word-final and prevocalic A,E,I,O,U, where obviously TRAP,..,FOOT are out of the question.

> FACE, FLEECE, and GOOSE sound right for open syllables (e.g. queso,
> miso, and Fuso)
[...]
> The short vowels (TRAP, DRESS, KIT, LOT or CLOTH, FOOT or STRUT) are
> used before -ng (although FOOT + ng is uncommon, e.g. the Sung
> Dynasty). I say some words with PALM + ng, but these are mostly
> uncommon words like "angklung" that I haven't actually heard
> pronounced. "Ankh" might be a better example. Some -ong words have
> LOT (i.e., the same sound as PALM) before ng (e.g. "Congo"), others
> CLOTH ("Hong Kong").

How about closed sylls? E.g. if LANTRA and LONTRA have PALM and GOAT, what would LENTRA, LINTRA, LUNTRA have?

--And.

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