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CONLANG  December 2013, Week 4

CONLANG December 2013, Week 4

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Re: the ZBB's Correspondence Library (of sound changes) adhuc floret

From:

Alex Fink <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sat, 28 Dec 2013 00:31:34 -0500

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On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 22:13:08 +0100, BPJ <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>2013-12-26 16:59, Herman Miller skrev:
>> My interest in sound changes is more general than the sound
>> changes in particular language families, since my languages aren't
>> based on terrestrial languages. A list of sound changes organized
>> by sound rather than language families would be really useful,
>> without duplicating a lot of the work that's already been done.
>> Actual examples for context would be really helpful as well.
>> Something along the lines of
>>
>> o > ue
>> Latin focus > Spanish fuego
>
>The problem is that when stated like that it not only doesn't
>teach you anything, but it's downright false. Not every vowel
>written _o_ in Latin corresponds to _ue_ in Spanish, you know,
>and it surely isn't *a* change, but the result of several
>changes, most of which were more general in the sense that other
>vowels were affected in similar ways. To begin to understand
>what's going on rather than taking it as a letter substitution
>formula you need to look at the steps, even if leaving aside the
>'generality' of most of them:
>
>a)  /ŏ/     >   /ɔ/
>b)  /ˈɔ/    >   /ɔː/
>c)  /ɔː/    >   /wɔ/
>d)  /wɔ/    >   /wɛ/
>
>Each of those steps is a reasonable change to anyone who
>knows even a little phonetics, whereas "/o/ > /ue/"
>looks just freaky!
>
>Note that all descendants Latin /oː/ as well as those descendants
>of Latin /ŏ/ which weren't stressed and thus didn't get
>lengthened later merged as Spanish /o/! Moreover if you look at
>related languages you'll find that Old French went through (a-d)
>and Italian went through (a-c), with the important difference of
>an additional constraint on (b) that it only affected an /ɔ/
>which was stressed *and* was in an open syllable; the question
>rather becomes why a closed syllable didn't block lengthening in
>Spanish! Also you'll find that the outcome in Old French was
>probably /ɥœ/; did fronting occur prior to (d), or was there an
>(e˗f) where /wɛ/ > /ɥɛ/ > /ɥœ/?  Old French orthography and the
>fact that Latin /uː/ > /y/ in Old French suggests the latter. The
>road is the journey, and how shall an aspiring conlanger learn
>anything of the 'geology' of language if only seeing the starting
>point and the end point?

This should be required reading for those looking for sound changes to use.  I wonder if it's worth putting in e.g. a prologue to the Correspondence Library to this effect?

Alex

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