On 23/02/14 11:34, Sebastian Rahtz wrote:
> On 23 Feb 2014, at 09:51, Řyvind Eide <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> "real person who live or are assumed to have lived."
> i wonder what to say about Ossian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossian). He is
> assumed nowadays to be an invention of James Macpherson, but it is just
> possible that he did actually live. if he is a <persona> of McPherson, he
> certainly has his own prosopography.
> I am happy with that set of “people” which FRBRoo defines F38 Character to
> describe, but I dont think it covers those “people” who do _not_
> "exhibit properties that would be inconsistent with a real person”.
> I don’t think one could easily say what distinguishes Bilbo Baggins
> as a “real” person from (say) Tarquinus Superbus, from Romulus,
> and from Augustus.
Indeed, and that's why TEI permits you to use <person> for both. But the
point at issue is not the reality or otherwise of the person but the
need to assert that a persona is something different from it. Both real
and fictional people can assume persona.
And no, it's not the same as a role, as the TEI uses the word: a role
for us is the relationship between a real person and some activity or
event e.g. role=printer, role=signatory . "Hamlet" is not a role in this
sense, or if so only metaphorically ("she's a real ophelia")
All of this philosophical folderoll notwithstanding, I do think that
there is a good use case for a special kind of <state> within <person>
which contains personographical data about a person(a) which the encoder
asserts as being assumed by the parent <person>. At its simplest there
might just be a name, but it's easy to imagine other persEvents being added.