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AUXLANG  February 2014, Week 2

AUXLANG February 2014, Week 2

Subject:

Re: Vatican Using Latino sine Flexione?

From:

Kjell Rehnström <[log in to unmask]>

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International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 12 Feb 2014 11:26:17 +0100

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Paul Bartlett skrev 2014-02-07 18:50:
> On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 08:17:16
> -0500, Stephen Rice
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> On 2/3/14, Paul Bartlett
>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 23:12:20
>>> -0500, Stephen Rice
>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote
>>>
>>> [excerpted for brevity]:
>
>>> I have never had the
>>> opportunity to show extended
>>> texts of LsF to a "real"
>>> Latinist. It might be
>>> interesting. Maybe, maybe not
>>> see LsF as
>>> bastardized, just simplified.
>>
>> I'm reasonably certain Latinists
>> would view LsF as you do Inlis, and
>> for similar reasons: Why learn
>> bad Latin? Just learn the regular
>> language!
>
> I grant that this is a
> possibility. :)
>
>> I'm leaning strongly at this
>> point toward Latinate
>> Interlingua rather
>> than LsF. I was going to do a
>> comparison of the two using the
>> opening
>> of _Evangelii Gaudium_, but when
>> I checked the Latin section of the
>> Vatican Website, I couldn't find
>> the document. So I tried English:
>
>> http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/francesco/apost_exhortations/index_en.htm
>>
>>
>> Notice what's missing: a Latin
>> version!
>
> Odd, perhaps (or perhaps, not so
> odd). Now that you mention it, I
> just did a search myself,
> including using a search
> metaengine (Dogpile, that I have
> better results with sometimes
> than with Google) and banging on
> the Vatican website, and I could
> not find the Latin text anywhere,
> either, *.va or other.
>
>> About the only advantage to
>> LsF would be the Pope's Latin
>> tweets, and if they are
>> essentially the
>> same as his tweets in other
>> languages, the advantage would be
>> negligible. I've considered
>> using Interlingua with an
>> emphasis on its
>> Italo-Latin vocabulary: "also"
>> would probably be "anque" rather
>> than
>> "etiam," and certainly not
>> "tamben." "But" would probably
>> be "ma"
>> rather than "sed." And so on:
>
> However, the "Italo-Latin
> vocabulary" would actually be
> *less* of "Latinate Interlingua,"
> at least to me. Also, there could
> be significant resistance from
> those interlinguaists who persist
> (much to my personal distaste) in
> trying to make I-gua over into
> Yet Another Romance Language :@ .
>
>> [...]
>
>> I'm considering a Website with
>> the tagline "Le Latino Moderne
>> pro le
>> Ecclesia Eterne," which seems
>> reasonably elegant.
>
> Yes, I would agree. I no longer
> receive "Panorama in Interlingua"
> in the paper version (just
> online), but as I recall, the
> mailing envelope used to refer to
> Interlingua as "Le Latino
> Moderne." (I suppose this was
> before David Stark's Latino
> Moderne, and I don't know whether
> anyone is still even trying to
> use the latter.)
>
I suspect Thomas didn't
know/consider about Latino Moderne
by Stark.

Kjell R

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