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CONLANG  February 2014, Week 2

CONLANG February 2014, Week 2

Subject:

Re: Postpositions question

From:

Logan Kearsley <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sat, 8 Feb 2014 23:28:23 -0700

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On 8 February 2014 22:09, Ph. D. <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> On 2/8/2014 11:56 PM, Gary Shannon wrote:
>>
>> I've never studied a language that uses postpositions instead of
>> prepositions. I can't quite warp my head around how that must work I take
>> the sentence fragment: "IN a cottage ON the edge OF a great forest" and if
>> I use postpositions I come up with "a cottage the edge a great forest OF
>> ON
>> IN" That just looks like RPN, and I'm sure that's not how it's done in a
>> real natlang.
>>
>> So can somebody help me out with what word order you would find for a
>> sentence like "She lived in a cottage on the edge of a great forest."
>> using
>> postpositions? The only postposition I can think of in English is "ago".
>> (If it were a preposition then "ago three years" would be a perfectly good
>> prepositional phrase, so I'm assuming it's a postposition. Or am I wrong
>> about that?)
>>
>> --gary
>
>
> I believe the postposition comes after its object, not at the end of the
> sentence.
>
> "She lived a cottage IN the edge ON a great forest OF."
>
> "She went to work at noon after tea." -> "She went work TO noon AT tea
> AFTER."

It is also possible (likely?) for the order of head noun and modifying
postpositional phrase to switch; e.g.,

"She lived the a great forest OF the edge ON cottage IN." (meaning the
cottage is on the edge of a great forest- IN attaches to the clause,
ON and OF head noun-modifying phrases)
or
"She lived cottage IN a great forest OF the edge ON." (meaning she
lived in a cottage, and she lived on the edge of a great forest- IN
and OF both adjoin to the clause)

Now, if it seems odd that clause-level postpositional phrases follow
what they modify while noun-phrase-level ones precede, that's because
it is. Postpositional languages are highly likely to be verb-final
languages as well. Which would yield

"She cottage IN a great forest OF the edge ON lived."
or
"She a great forest OF the edge ON cottage IN lived."

-l.

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