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CONLANG  February 2014, Week 2

CONLANG February 2014, Week 2

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Re: Building a conlang with daily diary entries

From:

Tony Harris <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 10 Feb 2014 11:05:33 -0500

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I'm a firm believer in the theory that if I'm making a language I'm 
going to want to actually use on a daily basis, words and features 
should be hard to get in, and hard to get out.  In other words, for 
grammar and syntax features especially, I'll roll it around quite a bit 
before I accept it as "canon", but once I do, it is pretty much carved 
in granite and I would have to chisel it out of the language before I 
changed it.  Same thing for words, I'll add them as needed, although I'm 
careful to roll the word around and make sure it "feels" right before I 
really accept it, and once they're in the dictionary they stay put 
unless there is a really amazingly powerful reason why I should remove 
that word.  If I need to, and another word comes to me that feels like 
it should be that, I'll make the old one an archaic or dialectal 
variation, rather than remove it.

That produces a language that is very stable and quite usable for 
journals and such.  I can dig out things I wrote in the early 1990's and 
have no problem reading them.  For unfortunate reasons I don't have a 
ton of material from the 1970's or 1980's in Alurhsa, but what I do have 
is still quite readable although a few really early pieces do sound a 
bit stilted now.

As far as secrecy, I don't really have anyone else with the desire to 
learn Alurhsa well enough to be able to read my journals, so I'm not too 
worried about that.  But if I did have something I really wanted to make 
secret, I could always use Tariatta, or even push Qalonse or one of my 
other languages, which each also have their own distinct script, and 
write the info in that which would make it even a bit harder to decipher.

On 02/10/2014 10:57 AM, Matthew Turnbull wrote:
> It would take some pretty dedicated encrypting to make it actually totally
> secret, but since for secrecy isn't the point, just a bonus, that's fine.
> Either way it's more secure than writing in plain script in your native
> language.
>
> There are quite a few times I've changed something after writing it down, I
> like the record it leaves, as now I can see how I've changed things over
> time a little more clearly. Kind of like taking a picture of a drawing as
> you go, and then you can see how it looked along the way.
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Leonardo Castro <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>
>> 2014-02-10 4:10 GMT+01:00 Daniel Bowman <[log in to unmask]>:
>>> Greetings to all, and it's great to see the list so active lately!
>>>
>>> I recently restarted my Angosey diary after about a year's hiatus.  My
>> first entry in 2014 said, more or less, "I have a secret language, why not
>> use it?"
>>> I find that writing my diary in Angosey is useful for several reasons.
>>   For one, I really can write pretty much anything without fear of someone
>> reading it.  Of course, someone could, but it would be a hell of a lot of
>> work and be quite a slog through months of mundane statements to get to
>> something mildly interesting.
>>> I also find writing in Angosey very calming.  I think it is a
>> combination of writing down my little daily bright and dark moments, and
>> the joy of conlanging itself-the grammar and vocabulary that I created
>> coming together in endless novel ways.
>>> Finally, in this extraordinarily busy period in my life, it's the only
>> way I can keep working on the language.  A few minutes per day
>> contemplating grammar, looking for the right word or creating it if it's
>> not already there - Angosey stays alive.
>>> Anyone else keep a diary in a conlang?
>> I have already considered having one, but as soon as I started
>> writing, I started to think that this or that word is not good and
>> changed it. Besides, it would not be completely secret because my wife
>> would ask me to translate it sometimes. I don't believe I could hide
>> it so that nobody would ever find it. At least, I would have someone
>> learning my language...
>>
>>> Danny

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