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CONLANG  March 2014, Week 1

CONLANG March 2014, Week 1

Subject:

Re: Kamakawi Fun Time!

From:

Adam Walker <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 3 Mar 2014 12:17:13 -0600

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Or course there is!  Llama, llama, duck!

Adam


On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Pete Bleackley <
[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> staving Adam Walker:
>
> We now return you to your regularly scheduled llama.
>
> <<<
>
> Why?
>
> There's no cause for a llama.
>
> Pete
>
> On 3/3/14, Puey McCleary <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >  As for the Kamakawi word "nelimilen," glossed as "martyr," I'd have to
> > look it up in my Comprehensive Dictionary of the Kamakawi Tongue, which I
> > keep next to my Encyclopaedia of Tlön, Uqbar, and Orbis Tertius.
>  However,
> > I've lent both books out, so I'll just have to guess as to the origin of
> > this word, for I rather doubt that it's related to the word for
> "witness,"
> > as is our word "martyr."
> > Here are some possibilities:
> >
> > 1) Nelimilen is the word for "beached whale," as well as for the
> folkloric
> > Spirit Nelimilen who tricks whales and sailors into crashing upon the
> > shore.  Eventually the word came to mean anyone who saw or almost fell
> > victim to such a calamity.
> >
> > 2) Nelimilen was the name of a famed fisherman long ago who was obsessed
> > with hunting the Great White Squid.  In this epic tale, still memorized
> by
> > Kamakawi children to this day, Nelimilen ends up dying in his quest to
> slay
> > the Great White Squid.
> > A famous quotation from this poem (which, alas, I only have in the
> English
> > translation) runs as follows:
> >
> > "He tasks me!  He tasks me, and I shall have him!  I'll chase him round
> the
> > Moons of Fith and round the Sheli Maestrom and round Solresol's flames
> > before I give him up.  Prepare to alter course!"
> >
> > The name Nelimilen is no longer given to Kamakawi children, but, however,
> > the name of his young cousin still is.  This younger cousin is mentioned
> in
> > the first line of the poem -- "Call me Ikemahel."
> >  3)  Nelimilen is a very, very old borrowing from Middle Zhyler which has
> > completely been assimilated into the Kamakawi collective.
> >
> > As for the rest of these lessons, as we all know, I'm a very bad typist
> (at
> > least in English), and a very bad speller (especially in English).  So,
> > alas, I actually knew that the word Spanyän meant Spain ... though no
> > matter how many times I read my translation, my brain did not seem to
> know.
> >  (I read each of my emails about four times, and I still don't catch
> these
> > mistakes).  I most certainly knew Suzette's last name, considering that I
> > have her dictionary on one of these shelves beside me.  I agree with Alex
> > though ... the Volapük lessons would be extra fun if Samül and his family
> > just blasted off into space.  I consider Volapük to be a steampunk
> > language, so I expect goggles, corsets, giant steam powered spiders,
> Queen
> > Victoria in a rocket powered zeppelin fleet, and other feats of
> improbable
> > science with my Volapük, thank you very much.
> >
> > I'll look at Kash when I have a moment.  Personally I would prefer to
> look
> > at lessons of personal languages, or at least less widely known
> languages,
> > since there are already communities around for Klingon and Volapük and
> the
> > like.  Kash does get extra points for having words for Dragons --
> kundapor
> > and açakon -- though I can't find a word for "clockwork," "ballet," or
> > "princess," which surely should be part of any basic vocabulary.
> >
> > Speaking of basic vocabulary, I always find it funny word words are
> listed
> > in the first lesson of a language.  It seems to give a feel to each
> > language.  In these first lessons, this is how we're introduced to these
> > languages:
> >
> > Klingon: tooth, hit, hand, language ...
> > Borg: airlock, assimilate, conquer, prosthesis ...
> > Láadan: tired, woman/person, sibling-by-birth, grass ...
> > Volapük: student, university, town, Spain ...
> > Tsolyáni: pen, paper, book, floor ...
> > Kamakawi: fish, mushroom, lava, martyr ...
> >
> > Alas, happiness is not the mushroom ...
> >
>

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