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CONLANG  March 2014, Week 1

CONLANG March 2014, Week 1

Subject:

Re: Kamakawi Fun Time!

From:

David Peterson <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 3 Mar 2014 13:10:00 -0800

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LOL Your imagination is a fine, fine thing. Of course, the etymology of nelimile (no final n, of course, since it’s Kamakawi, which has no codas) is actually quite obvious, if I see the Kamakawi word for it. It’s one of the /mi/ words. /mi/ means “butterfly”. I created a bunch of these based on my own psycho-aesthetic associations with butterflies. So /mi/ is the word for “butterfly”, but also a verb “to float”, and an adjective meaning “carefree”. /mile/ adds the causative suffix, which means “to release someone from their worries”. /-li-/ is infix (and a poorly conceived and executed one, at that), so the prefix /ne-/ will have had to have been added first. /nemile/ means “to be dead”. /ne-/ is a terminal prefix, so it means “to permanently release from worries”. Arguably this should have meant “to kill”, but that’s /nemilele/, with another causative suffix added. The /-li-/ infix is an actor infix, so /nelimile/ is, for some reason, “martyr”, rather than “dead person”. I think it’s because the /-li-/ infix is associated with more animate things, and you can’t really have an animate dead thing, unless you’re trying to describe why it’s dead.

There are a ton of other really bizarre /mi/ words in Kamakawi, including words for “insanity” /miwimi/, “to appear” /mimu/, “politician” /milimile/, and “eye of a storm” /miwilumi/. There are probably more words related to “butterfly” than there are to any other concept/lexeme in Kamakawi. Some of them are very “woo”, if that’s a word, or very iffy, but I’ve enjoyed having them—and enjoyed creating them—so I imagine I’ll keep them.

David Peterson
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On Mar 3, 2014, at 4:47 AM, Puey McCleary <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> As for the Kamakawi word "nelimilen," glossed as "martyr," I'd have to
> look it up in my Comprehensive Dictionary of the Kamakawi Tongue, which I
> keep next to my Encyclopaedia of Tlön, Uqbar, and Orbis Tertius.  However,
> I've lent both books out, so I'll just have to guess as to the origin of
> this word, for I rather doubt that it's related to the word for "witness,"
> as is our word "martyr."
> Here are some possibilities:
> 
> 1) Nelimilen is the word for "beached whale," as well as for the folkloric
> Spirit Nelimilen who tricks whales and sailors into crashing upon the
> shore.  Eventually the word came to mean anyone who saw or almost fell
> victim to such a calamity.
> 
> 2) Nelimilen was the name of a famed fisherman long ago who was obsessed
> with hunting the Great White Squid.  In this epic tale, still memorized by
> Kamakawi children to this day, Nelimilen ends up dying in his quest to slay
> the Great White Squid.
> A famous quotation from this poem (which, alas, I only have in the English
> translation) runs as follows:
> 
> "He tasks me!  He tasks me, and I shall have him!  I'll chase him round the
> Moons of Fith and round the Sheli Maestrom and round Solresol's flames
> before I give him up.  Prepare to alter course!"
> 
> The name Nelimilen is no longer given to Kamakawi children, but, however,
> the name of his young cousin still is.  This younger cousin is mentioned in
> the first line of the poem -- "Call me Ikemahel."
> 3)  Nelimilen is a very, very old borrowing from Middle Zhyler which has
> completely been assimilated into the Kamakawi collective.
> 
> As for the rest of these lessons, as we all know, I'm a very bad typist (at
> least in English), and a very bad speller (especially in English).  So,
> alas, I actually knew that the word Spanyän meant Spain ... though no
> matter how many times I read my translation, my brain did not seem to know.
> (I read each of my emails about four times, and I still don't catch these
> mistakes).  I most certainly knew Suzette's last name, considering that I
> have her dictionary on one of these shelves beside me.  I agree with Alex
> though ... the Volapük lessons would be extra fun if Samül and his family
> just blasted off into space.  I consider Volapük to be a steampunk
> language, so I expect goggles, corsets, giant steam powered spiders, Queen
> Victoria in a rocket powered zeppelin fleet, and other feats of improbable
> science with my Volapük, thank you very much.
> 
> I'll look at Kash when I have a moment.  Personally I would prefer to look
> at lessons of personal languages, or at least less widely known languages,
> since there are already communities around for Klingon and Volapük and the
> like.  Kash does get extra points for having words for Dragons -- kundapor
> and açakon -- though I can't find a word for "clockwork," "ballet," or
> "princess," which surely should be part of any basic vocabulary.
> 
> Speaking of basic vocabulary, I always find it funny word words are listed
> in the first lesson of a language.  It seems to give a feel to each
> language.  In these first lessons, this is how we're introduced to these
> languages:
> 
> Klingon: tooth, hit, hand, language ...
> Borg: airlock, assimilate, conquer, prosthesis ...
> Láadan: tired, woman/person, sibling-by-birth, grass ...
> Volapük: student, university, town, Spain ...
> Tsolyáni: pen, paper, book, floor ...
> Kamakawi: fish, mushroom, lava, martyr ...
> 
> Alas, happiness is not the mushroom ...

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