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CONLANG  March 2014, Week 1

CONLANG March 2014, Week 1

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Re: The Most Difficult Language (was: Templatic Morphologies)

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Jörg Rhiemeier <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sat, 1 Mar 2014 22:13:47 +0100

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Hallo conlangers!

On Saturday 01 March 2014 15:05:00 Leonardo Castro wrote:

> 2014-02-24 13:20 GMT+01:00 Guilherme Santos <[log in to unmask]>:
> > So, you are saying that the most difficult language is the one with the
> > most unusual semantic concepts and with complex ways to mark them?
> > And yes, that feels rather difficult
> 
> Actually, I think that there's no limit of how difficult a language
> can be. You can see a logic in how Ithkuil affixes are formed. If you
> want something more difficult, just mix them randomly. Or just give up
> on having patterns and build a different table for each single verb.
> You could also add a lot of phonemes to it, increase the lenght of the
> words indefinitely, etc.
> 
> There must be some criteria to limit what you're going to call a
> "language". Maybe you could try to construct the most difficult
> language that you yourself could speak fluently. John Quijada, the
> creator of Ithkuil (who's also in this list and is watching us right
> now), once told us that it took 15 minutes to compose a single word
> that would describe a hypothetical sport, and we're talking about his
> own language!

It *is* possible to construct languages that are at least in
some respects too difficult for the human language facility to
cope with.  Jeffrey Henning's Fith is an oft-cited example:
the stack which the language uses to parse utterances soon
exceeds the capacity of the human short-term memory.  (Note
that the grammar of Fith is actually very *simple*; yet, it
overloads the human mind.)  Ithkuil is overall very complex,
and it may be way beyond human capabilities, too.

One could also construct a richly inflecting language where
all grammatical categories are expressed by suppletion.  So
a noun would have, say, six cases and two numbers, which are
expressed by means of 12 mutually unrelated roots.  Such a
beast could also be too difficult for humans to handle.

--
... brought to you by the Weeping Elf
http://www.joerg-rhiemeier.de/Conlang/index.html
"BÍsel asa …am, a …am atha cvanthal a cvanth atha …amal." - SiM 1:1

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