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CONLANG March 2014, Week 3

Subject:

Re: gjâ-zym-byn lessons

From:

Guilherme Santos <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 16 Mar 2014 23:25:06 -0300

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I am not a english native speaker so i have no right to speak on
dialectology, but who says raw and cough with the same vowel?


2014-03-16 22:05 GMT-03:00 James Kane <[log in to unmask]>:

> Sorry, I think I glossed over the link to the more advanced phonology. Now
> that I've seen it I'm happy :).
>
> The only three things that confused me were: firstly, "A sound like
> English "k", but with the tongue further back in the mouth; most similar to
> the final sound in English "call" as distinct the inital sound in "back",
> the latter of which is represented by gzb "k"." This seems a bit
> convoluted; maybe you have 'initial' and 'final' swapped around?
> Secondly, the descriptions for the palatal affricates made me think they
> were palatoalveolar for some reason.
> Lastly, your vowels descriptions are clearly based on a NAm dialect. Not
> that this is a bad thing, just that it might be confusing for people whose
> raw and cough don't have the same vowel and it might be worth mentioning.
>
> Sorry to be such a nitpicker!
>
> James
>
>
> > On 17/03/2014, at 1:55 am, Jim Henry <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 5:29 AM, James Kane <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >> I just looked through the first lesson, it seems as if there's
> something missing at the end. Nasals vowels are discussed and the next
> paragraph seems to talk about exceptions in the stress system.
> >
> > Yes, apparently a sentence or two got deleted there by accident, about
> > how gzb usually stresses the penultimate syllable. I'll fix that soon.
> >
> >> It might also be nice to have some IPA; it isn't entirely clear what
> the pronunciation of each letter is.
> >
> > Lesson 0 has a link in the first paragraph to the "Phonology and
> > Writing System" document, which has an IPA chart etc., and more
> > technical detail about the phonology overall.  It starts out by
> > saying:
> >
> >>> This should explain the sounds and writing system of gj-zym-byn (gzb)
> more simply, assuming no linguistics background, than the more technical
> description in the "Phonology & Writing System" document.
> > <<
> >
> > and then there's another link to the phonology document in the next
> > paragraph,  where it says click here for more advanced information
> > about exceptions.
> >
> > I'm not sure how to make that more clear.  Maybe I could say a
> > paragraph or two later that if you want IPA, go here.
> >
> > --
> > Jim Henry
> > http://www.pobox.com/~jimhenry/
> > http://www.jimhenrymedicaltrust.org
>

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