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AUXLANG  March 2014, Week 4

AUXLANG March 2014, Week 4

Subject:

Re: questions on babel script

From:

Risto Kupsala <[log in to unmask]>

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International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 26 Mar 2014 21:15:13 +0200

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26.3.2014 14:02, Max Kubierschky wrote:
>> There are also more or less evenly global languages like Pandunia,
>> Lidepla and Sambahsa.
> I'll have a look. Which of them have isolating grammars?

Pandunia (http://www.pandunia.info) is purely isolating.
Lidepla (http://lingwadeplaneta.info/) uses affixes and some part of 
speech markers.
Sambahsa (http://sambahsa.pbworks.com) has even some flexions.

>
>> Okay. Unfortunately I must admit that I have never been interested in
>> any a priori auxlang. Fortunately there is still natlang BX... Come to
>> think of it, could it happen that for example Babel English would
>> become the spoken norm?
>>
> This may well be. But I don't think it is a good choice. English has some
> properties that are undesirable in this context, as: Inconsistent
> spelling (Babel Inglish could be a remedy), large inventory of
> morphemes, high amount of homonyms and ambiguities in the vocabulary.

I agree with you. I just imagined what could happen in the real world 
with the success of Babel. Auxlangs can get out of the control of their 
creator. And actually that is a desirable turn of events.

>>>> There are also questions about parts of speech and word selection. For
>>>> example, which word form is used in BX for a concept that has both
>>>> verb and noun side, such as "to speak" vs. "speech", or should there
>>>> be two separate words?
>>> This is indeed a problem. I think, the solution must be different words
>>> for noun and verb. Otherwise, it would cause to much confusion. For
>>> example in german, the noun that is closest to "sprechen" (speak), is
>>> "Sprache" (language). Speech translates to "Rede".
>> What if there is only one word for both verb and noun, like "talk" and
>> "love" in English? ;)
> This is a problem, that is only relevant for some natlangs, as for
> example english.

Okay. It's nice to see that you can present some strategies to solve the 
problem. It's also wise to let native speakers to decide.

>> That looks nice but it is only a 3-word sentence. What about a 20-word
>> sentence? Could be more challenging.
> I'll come up with examples. Do you also read the conlang list? I wanted
> to discuss it there.

No, usually I don't. But I can take a look at your messages there.

--Risto

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