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CONLANG April 2014, Week 4

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Re: Conlangery I'm up to lately...

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Den 26 apr 2014 04:26 skrev "Siva Kalyan" <[log in to unmask]>:
>
> Re guidewords in LaTeX: Is the fancyhdr package not ‘sane’? See
http://www.ctex.org/documents/packages/layout/fancyhdr.pdf, p. 10.

How could I have missed that?! I looked deeper into fancyhdr only once to
find out how I could inhibit capitalization of IPA. I should have read the
whole manual or at least the whole TOC!

You are a hero!

/bpj

>
> On 25 Apr 2014 12:10:32 am, BPJ <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 2014-04-23 20:12, Tony Harris skrev:
> > In the interest of generating some conversation, since people have
> > been noting how quiet the list is, here's what I'm up to lately.
> > Hopefully this will generate some chatter. ;-)
>
>
> First of all the linguistic-artistic bit: homonyms/homographs
> aren't a bad thing; all natlangs have them so they make your lang
> more naturalistic. Nor do homonyms in natlangs make sense; they
> just are, having arisen through regular sound change or
> borrowing. Natlangs 'fix' homonymy only occasionally and
> incidentally through one or both meanings drifting towards
> another word. It may be that a high degree of ambiguity speeds
> this drift when it happens but it doesn't cause the drift nor
> predisposes to it. Natlangs tolerate a lot of ambiguity because
> in reality context almost always disambiguates. Spoken Swedish
> has two very unlikely homophone pairs: _och_ 'and' ~ _att_ 'to
> (infinitive marker)' both /o/ and _var_ 'was' ~ _vad_ 'what'.
> These have been and remained homophones for centuries and resist
> the prevailing tendency to restore 'silent letters' in educated
> speech. Radio announcers, newsreaders and pedantic Swedish
> teachers just sound funny! _Att_ moreover has an equally or
> nearly as frequent homograph /atː/ 'that (conjunction).
>
> Now for the dictionary technicalities. Incidentally my toolset is
> very similar to yours, except that I've been bitten by human
> unreadable and proprietary file formats and for that reason I've
> chosen to keep my dictionaties in UTF-8 encoded CSV files. This
> does impose some limitations but ensures that the data remain
> readily readable in my lifetime and beyond, as there will most
> probably be tools which can display and parse them for the
> foreseeable future. I use Gnumeric rather than OpenOffice because
> Gnumeric is lighter-weight and smells less of WYSIWYG or as I
> call it WYSIAYG ...all you get, and because OpenOffice's handling
> of embedded doublequotes by converting them into locale-dependent
> non-ASCII quotes is _evil_. I also have a number of perl scripts
> to do things with these files. I have found Tie::File very
> useful. The idea of tieing the lines of a file to an array sounds
> insane but works well if a bit slow in practice. I have a module
> which provides an object enclosing such an array, with one method
> to fetch a row, parse it with Text::CSV::Encoded and return a
> hashref keyed on the column headers from the file, then a method
> to turn the hash values back into an array in the right order,
> combine them and stick them back into the file array. I have
> several scripts which use that module for performing various
> tasks, like finding entries matching certain criteria and dumping
> the retrieved hashes to a YAML file for viewing/editing --
> usually in Vim. My dictionaries aren't super huge but I usually
> avoid loading all the data into memory. If I need to output the
> data sorted by some criterion I make a hash or an array of tuples
> mapping some sort key to line numbers: the tied array allows me
> to retrieve lines of the file in any order. I haven't produced a
> resorted version of the Sohlob dictionary CSV file in a long
> time, but iff I need a sorted version of the files I have a
> script which simply goes through the lines generating a sort key
> and mapping it to the line numbers, then writes a new file sorted
> in the specified order, and similarly if I'd want to produce a
> dictionary or so. Non-tabular storage sure sounds enticing, but
> can it be combined with the kind of security by human/multiple
> tool readability I like to have?
>
> You have _everything_ to win by switching from RTF to LaTeX, not
> least a much saner markup, although even LaTeX is less
> human-readable than I like. I use Pandoc[^1] and/or XeLaTeX[^2]
> for all my writing and text production. To build a traditional
> dictionary, which I shame to say have done only once and only
> partially, I would certainly generate the LaTeX directly unless I
> specifically want to target both PDF and HTML. Unlike RTF LaTeX
> is a _document_ description language rather than a _page_
> description language, and it does most things right without you
> having to tell it howto, and the defaults you don't like are more
> ore less easily tweakable; there usually is a macro package to do
> what you want! BTW as I said already three years ago: if anyone
> knows a sane way to get guidewords in LaTeX I'm _still_ all
> ears/eyes! I guess I'll have to use PerlTeX again...
>
> /bpj
>
> [^1]: <http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/README.html>. Build it
> yourself; the versions in the various distro repos are olden!
>
> [^2]: <http://xetex.tug.org> especially the "Tutorials,
> documentation, articles" section where I recommend
> <http://scholarsfonts.net/xetextt.pdf

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