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CONLANG May 2014, Week 1

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Re: THEORY: Facility to pronounce other languages as a function of your native language

From:

BPJ <[log in to unmask]>

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Date:

Mon, 5 May 2014 11:53:12 +0200

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Generally it is of course not the count of phonemes/contrasts in your L1
which matters, but the degree to which your L1 and the other language make
*the same* contrasts which makes it easier, and the degree to which the
other language makes *more contrasts* or *different contrasts* which makes
it harder. Often you are even better understood if you make a relevant
contrast in not quite the right way rather than not making it at all. For
example Finnish has long obstruents /pp tt kk ss/ after long vowels, short
/p t k s/ after short  vowels and consonant length distinction in
unstressed syllables, all of which is very hard for a Swedish speaker, but
if I pronounce Finnish "d" as [ɽ] which is an easy sound for me and /p t k
s/ as [b d g z] Finnish speakers understand me better even though those
sounds don't have a place in a real Finnish accent, because I don't
conflate short and long obstruents anymore. Strangely it's easier for me to
affect [z] than pairing VVCC and VC! Likeways when I and my wife met she
conflated Swedish /y/ and /ʉ/ but her Finnish /y/ sounds like a Swedish
/ʉ/, a Swedish /y/ being 'sharper', so that her _ny_ 'new' sounded like
_nu_ 'now'. I suggested to her to pronounce Swedish /y/ like the Finnish
diphthong /yi/ and Swedish /ʉ/ like Finnish /y/, and from that moment on
her Swedish was a lot easier to understand! Interestingly she knew the
right distribution of the two sounds; she had just not been able to
pronounce them differently.

/bpj
 Den 30 apr 2014 02:18 skrev "Leonardo Castro" <[log in to unmask]>:

> Em 30/04/2014 00:56, "Leonardo Castro" <[log in to unmask]> escreveu:
>
> > Naturally, there are individual differences. The South American I know
> personally that speak French better is actually a Colombian guy. If I
> included those that I don't know personally, I would probably choose a
> Colombian girl: Shakira.
>
> I messed things up here... I would maybe choose Shakira as the Latin South
> American who pronounces English (not French, as it appears in the sentence)
> with the best pronunciation. But, well, she also speaks Brazilian
> Portuguese very well. I don't know how good is her French...
>
> >
> > Até mais!
> >
> > Leonardo
>

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