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AUXLANG June 2014, Week 2

Subject:

Re: Design of auxlangs

From:

Kjell Rehnström <[log in to unmask]>

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International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 8 Jun 2014 06:07:49 +0200

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Paul Bartlett skrev 2014-06-07 20:37:
> On 6/6/2014, Scott Raney wrote 
> [trimmed for brevity]:
>
>> Well, since you didn't ask ;-)
>>
>> Another dimension you seem to 
>> not be considering is 
>> aesthetics. There
>> are some auxlangs that just 
>> *sound* cooler than others, 
>> though I'm
>> sure this depends a lot on one's 
>> first/primary language.
>
> I would say that this is 
> definitely the case.
>
>> This is
>> another thing that I'm hoping 
>> crowdsourcing will get us that one
>> person (up to maybe a few 
>> people) working on a language 
>> just won't
>> ever achieve (especially us 
>> nerds who can probably just 
>> barely even
>> recognize cool, let alone create 
>> it from scratch).  ...
>
> I am not sure that a group effort 
> will necessarily be more 
> successful than a production by a 
> genius (which I myself consider 
> Zamenhof to have been, although I 
> am not a committed Esperantist). 
> After all, the old saying is that 
> a camel is a horse designed by a 
> committee. (The difference is 
> that a camel works in its 
> environment, which many committee 
> productions do not.)
>
> Zamenhof, as I understand it, did 
> accept some small feedback at 
> first on a specific point or two, 
> reasonably so, but otherwise E-o 
> was his personal production, and 
> it has been overwhelmingly the 
> most (relatively) successful 
> constructed international 
> auxiliary language to date. I 
> would say that that is pretty 
> impressive for a "solo" production.
>
> There have been various attempts 
> at group productions of conIALs, 
> often using the full resources of 
> modern global electronic 
> communications. How far have any 
> of them gone? To the best of my 
> knowledge, approximately nowhere. 
> Several years ago there was an 
> attempt on Yahoo Groups to 
> construct an "optimal" conIAL 
> (Demos). For several weeks there 
> was a blizzard of posts, 
> sometimes so many in a day that I 
> literally could not keep up with 
> them. (I subscribed but did not 
> have a whole lot of hope.) Soon 
> the whole thing fizzled out. 
> Dead. Defunct. Nothing. So much 
> for a group effort, 
> "crowdsourcing," if you will.
I suppose "crowdsourcing" would 
work if people had a grammatical 
and lexical foundation and then 
used the language. In a way like 
European Interlinguaists made with 
Interlingua.

Kjell R

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