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AUXLANG  July 2014, Week 1

AUXLANG July 2014, Week 1

Subject:

Re: Politics Re: How easy is Esperanto really?

From:

Scott Raney <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 4 Jul 2014 11:20:57 -0600

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On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Logan Streondj <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Certainly Scott, I agree politics is a major factor.
> It is politicians that most require understanding clearly what someone from a foreign culture wishes to express.

My plan is to mostly do away with politicians too, which solves two
big problems:

1) Representative government is inherently corrupt (which is what my
book is about)

2) The Auxlang becomes integral to the process rather than just being
a possibly-dispensed-with add-on.

> Also from my understanding many auxlangs fail because they can't cope with community contributions.

Right: using crowdsourcing for the language definition solves this
problem not only during the initial design phase, but also as an
on-going means of refining the language as needed in the future.

> Thus I've decided it would be a good idea to implement a parlimentary democratic approach,
> which is based on the Robert's Rules of Order.  The Speaker would be the robot compiler,
> People would address the Speaker in the language of their choosing,
> it would check their grammar and clarify ambiguities, as well as queue it for posting.
> Then the speaker would address the assembled peoples in their respective languages.
> Or address them in Mkaw, and their local (software) interpreters would translate to their prefered language.
> The proceedings could be held in the form of a chat, and archived as a forum.

My opinion is that although machine translation is a useful tool, it
will not be capable of doing what you're expecting within our
lifetimes.  Once AI has advanced to the point where the machines can
*understand* what we're saying, the translation issue pretty much goes
away.  But we can't wait that long.

> The legislation could also be written in mkaw,
> thus making it readable in any supported language.
> It could be automatically edited based on the motions(proposals) passed(enacted).
>
> Ideally this would allow for a more direct-democratic approach to politics.
> Since various polities, both physical(regions, buildings) and virtual (businesses/groups),
> would be able to more easily manage their laws and recieve contributions from members.
>
> I was even thinking that since the source-code will eventually be in Mkaw,
> people could submit patches to it through the same process.
> It would be voted in by the community or maintainers.

Sounds like we agree on a lot of the new system.  I'm not as sure that
the language needs to be as integrated to the core as you're
proposing, but it's definitely worth considering...
  Regards,
    Scott

> --
> Logan Streondj <[log in to unmask]>

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